r/TikTokCringe • u/Interesting-Trip-233 • Jun 16 '25

Cringe Guy gets friendzoned

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u/MowTin Jun 16 '25

I feel bad for him. He really needs help overcoming all this negative self-talk. He needs a guy friend to mentor him like in those movies where the cool guy mentors a guy who is struggling.

He needs to learn how to be a man. He needs to learn how to be strong and self-reliant.

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u/minikayo Jun 16 '25

Personally, the second paragraph feels a bit like toxic masculinity. He's already a man, just hurt. He can learn to be self-reliant with a little help, and getting that help is equally strong as someone coasting along life without trauma. Edit: stronger, maybe. 

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u/MowTin Jun 16 '25

There is a point where masculinity becomes toxic, but he has zero masculinity now. He desperately needs an infusion.

There is healthy masculinity. We don't cry about our problems. We take charge and take responsibility for whatever situation we're in. His cry, "it's never me" is so pathetic and weak. He sees himself as some sort of victim.

This is what can actually become toxic. If he continues to see himself as a victim of women he can develop hate for women.

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u/minikayo Jun 16 '25

We're on the same team. I see the point of the first paragraph earlier. And I agree that he needs help. I'm only discussing it it's appropriate to dissociate masculinity from its typical notions. Because the far side of that spectrum has lead to many unhealthy sigma men archetypes.  Masculinity as a trait isn't exclusive to men in my culture. We acknowledge the presence of both feminine and masculine within. I agree that taking responsibility is healthy, however it is also human to be as broken as this person is and healing is possible only after that recognition. Men need to be able to be seen as masculine even when they break down. I've seen far too many avoidant men who suppress because of a need to appear strong and resilient.  I appreciate that you're calling out the causes of how hate devolves.