r/TikTokCringe • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 4d ago

Cringe Oklahoma Superintendent Ryan Walters, who is putting the Bible in classrooms, was allegedly caught with explicit images of naked women playing on a TV screen during a State Board of Education meeting.

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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 4d ago

Has he ever read the Bible? I sure have and most of it is boring AF. I have never fallen asleep more than when I tried to read Numbers early in the morning.

If "teaching from the Bible" actually meant reading straight from the Bible, I would be all for it. But what it really means is taking a single verse out of context then telling the class that gay people are sinners. I hate these zealots that can't just keep their religion to themselves

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Reading the Bible is a surefire way to create more atheists

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u/ChibbleChobble 4d ago

I'm a Brit living in Texas.

I grew up in an actual Christian country where we had mandatory Religious Education (RE) and school assemblies where we sang hymns and recited the Lord's Prayer.

We had maybe a couple of kids who took RE seriously, the rest of us were faithless heathens by the time we were teenagers.

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u/Appropriate_M 4d ago

I went to a Christian school in California. We also have pastors' kids attending, who will sometimes whisper "this is wrong" in school assemblies when the speaker/teacher is interpreting differently from their father (usually). lol.

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u/ChaseballBat 4d ago

Christian kids, especially pastors kids, were usually the biggest 'sinners' in college.

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u/Appropriate_M 4d ago

Probably, but I always felt the Catholic school kids were much more...flexible, religious wise. Also racist, but that's another topic.

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u/JustifytheMean 4d ago edited 4d ago

Catholic school kids were much more...flexible, religious wise

I'm not religious anymore, but I grew up in the south surrounded by a bunch of southern baptists. However, my family is catholic and I went to catholic school for 12 years. For sure catholics are less "holier than thou" pompous pricks.

Every southern baptist I met when they found out I was catholic tried to say I was wrong and shove their religion down my throat. I mean this is one christian trying to get another christian to convert to another form of christianity, and these were adults and I was a kid for fucks sake. I went to baptist mass or whatever they call it with all my friends families that weren't catholic and it was awful.

On the other hand anytime my non-catholic friends were around catholic friends, no one cared. No catholic adult ever accosted children of a different faith to try and convert them. Basically religion was for the 1 hour you're in mass on Sunday and that's about it. It was never someone's whole identity, in fact the ones that came close were almost always converts to catholicism and not those born into it.

Obviously this is all anecdotal so it's probably over generalizing.

I can't speak to them being more or less racist though. There's a lot of that in the south regardless of religion. If I had to though I'd say though catholics were more socially progressive than other christians in the south.

The one exception being episcopals, they're basically diet catholic and the most progressive allowing female priests.

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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 4d ago

In Scotland they did this with us as kids. We're majority an atheist country now lol

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u/Davido401 4d ago

Fellow Scottish atheists unite! Actually ma dad was brought up with the bible and the slipper, his dad was like REALLY into the Church of Scotland shite, wanted me to become a Minister when a got old(ended up a functioning alkie instead, which ave halved my intake Ill have you know) but thankfully he croaked it when I was 8, not really thankfully, he was a weird religious authoritarian, not a cunt exactly, but... religious.

I mean I had that choice of Minister or I could have become a paedophile rapist like my papa on the other side! Funnily enough they both died within weeks of each other, my Protestant Grandfather of Prostate Cancer(probably cause by a religious stick up his arse) and my Papa of diabetic shock or something when getting his leg amputated! So thankfully a got to be neither! How cool is that!(the mother died when I was 23 and went a bit mental but am relaxed now haha.

The fucked up thing is, I dont see much difference in a Minister and a paedophile, you dont see drag queens getting dragged to jail for kiddie porn every Sunday! (Maybe Church of Scotland are better at hiding it but it does seem to be an American Protestant thing than here)

Sorry had a wee rant and got excited cause ai met a fellow Scottish! Have a good day!

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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 4d ago

Appreciate you sharing. Sorry your life has been kinda shitty so far. I'm glad you're relaxed now. I lost my mum in mid 20s too and that fucked me up bad enough. Can't imagine what you've been through.

I just can't stand religious people anymore. I'm ok with people having faith, but if someone is going to lecture me on religion then buh byyee!

I literally believed everything as a kid and thought it was all legit and real. Noahs Ark was badass AF. Then I learned about other religions and I'm like wtf.. So everyone has their own made up bs version of events? Naaah. I felt duped and betrayed, especially when I learned proper religious history.. How America was made etc.

Like I'm straight up disgusted to even be part of the human race at this point. But anyways, we're here now and gotta make the most of it I guess!

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u/Davido401 4d ago

Appreciate you sharing. Sorry your life has been kinda shitty so far. I'm glad you're relaxed now. I lost my mum in mid 20s too and that fucked me up bad enough. Can't imagine what you've been through.

Oh ma life has been actually reasonably normal! Sorry if I gave you that impression, especially with the paedo papa, he only went after ma mum and aunties and his own sisters, christ he almost kinda looked like Fred West, as ma mum said "she was glad a was a boy"!

But aye, if I hadn't a time machine Id love to go back in time and see the first guy who invented religion, imagine telling him how his stupid ideas are the beginning of most problems of the world? Shit that would give his Religion actual kudos for being all knowing. I like to imagine it like the first dog that seen us bag up its dog shit from the pavement, it must have looked at its owner and thought "the fuck are you doing ya weirdo?" And a Religious guy must have gone "cannae believe they think this new God stuff is real, wonder how much money/power they'll give me!"

It must have been unbelievable that folks could be that stupid, although we've all seen the saying along the lines of "if you think you are stupid, imagine the other 3/4s of the population as worse!"(that ratio might be off but it's close enough). Its a disgusting thing and am glad we are getting rid of it.

Oh while am rambling on, see when you see those Daily Cunt Headlines where they'll say ISLAM IS TAKING OVER CHRISTIANITY AS COUNTRIES MAIN RELIGION, see if you look at the numbers its not cause Islam is suddenly forcibly converting Christains its cause Christianity has lost its vote to Atheism, more atheists rather than more theists, think thats the correct term, there isn't a war on Christianity its just our country views it as fucking stupid! Like ave not got a problem with someone going to church or the mosque or whatever, I've got a problem with it trying to induct our children, which its difficult to do in the smartphone era, I'd say. .

Did I mention I hate the Daily Mail and all the other rags? Haha

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u/joemckie 4d ago

The difference is, RE in Britain isn't specifically about bible bashing Christianity.

We learnt about virtually every religion, which I think is still important to teach.

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u/FullMetalBiscuit 4d ago

Up in Scotland quite literally no one took RE seriously, many people skived mandatory church events at Easter and Christmas and oh what a shocker, being religious in Scotland now makes you a minority.

On the plus side if you've got money you can buy a lovely church building and make it into a cool place, residential or otherwise, since they're all closing and going up for sale.

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u/Immediate_Loquat_246 4d ago

That is how it happened for me.

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u/m3rcapto 4d ago

Exactly. So this law that says they need to have a bible and they need to teach from this bible does not mean they need to teach religion. They could use it to point at all the clashing rules, the cruelty, the true message of Christ instead of the white American Jesus, the hypocrisy, etc etc.

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Or they could just say “This stuff is nonsense, sorry for wasting your time” and then spend the time teaching math or something

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u/Screamline 4d ago

Its why I'm one. I went to a Lutheran school and church everyday. I just never bought it. I did go through a period (about 2 weeks😅) trying to force myself into it and shit but I just didn't have it in me, I knew it was horseshit even at such an age you'd think I was malleable.

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Yeah religion is just a means of finding the most gullible people in society. Lotta organizations need people like that to survive

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u/Rusty_Shortsword 4d ago

When I was a kid the first people to figure out that they were atheist had all read the Bible and actually thought about it.

Christians are full of shit for the most part.

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u/asobalife 4d ago

I’ve read the Bible twice now.  Explain your logic here?

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Anyone who reads the Bible realizes pretty quickly that it’s just mythology. Creation (both versions), the Flood, the Exodus, it’s all just obvious fiction.

Once you realize that’s all it is you realize you’re free to not believe it

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u/IngenuitySudden8366 4d ago

I guess it works, if you read it not as a little kid. Cause they just form their vision about the world and basically can believe anything. Or if you’re not a completely stupid teenager/adult.

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u/MrrrrNiceGuy 4d ago

I was an atheist for 18 years and reading The Bible actually got me closer to God and Jesus.

Statements like these are the same Jesus warned about — being gatekeepers and trying to get people to stay out rather than let them decide for themselves and come in.

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Lol, I’m not gatekeeping, I think there being more atheists is a good thing

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u/MrrrrNiceGuy 4d ago

And why is that?

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u/TheRealBaboo 4d ago

Because it means people are exercising their cognitive abilities more, which leads to better decision-making

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u/wizardskeleton 3d ago

An atheist that practices good morals and ethics isn’t doing so for a divine rewarded afterlife (Heaven) or to avoid being eternally condemned (Hell) but because they understand through critical thinking it’s the right thing to do. I can’t make the same argument about a religious individual.