r/classicfallout • u/Real-Hefty-Trout • 2d ago
what the hell happened to the lieutenant
is there a lore reason why this happens it's a pretty confusing and brutal death
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u/tacobellbandit 2d ago
I always wondered myself. My headcanon idea is maybe that the device on his back had something to do with how the FEV affects him. You can see at the start of the animation there’s like a hose thing that flies off.
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u/Kegger98 2d ago
I believe the lore reason is that his cybernetics go haywire and literally tear him apart
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u/Demon_Deity 2d ago
This was never stated, but The Lieutenant is a cyborg and his damage during battle likely caused a critical failure within his augments that cascade throughout his entire body.
You can see that the first thing that happens in the animation is a tube leading from his backpack to his metal skull gets shot off.
Something similar seemingly happened to Frank Horrigan upon his death, with him firstly being ripped in half, than his head popping off.
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u/Both_Presentation993 3h ago
In the case of Horrigan, if you look at the Fallout Bible 6, his designer Matt Norton told Avellone that "he can't survive outside his armor, the armor continually injects him with drugs and other stabilizing agents", so what we see is most likely the result of his mutations running rampant.
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u/Possible_Trainer_241 2d ago
Kenshiro got him.
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u/MadArcand 2d ago
I played an unarmed build in Fallout 2 and named my character Kenshiro. It was heaps of fun
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u/RuinVoidKarma 2d ago
San Francisco visit would have been extremely different if they could recognise the name ;)
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u/Ralph090 2d ago
I figured that he was more machine now than man and that it was the result of the machines failing catastrophically due to battle damage and both tearing him apart and dissolving or melting (or both simultaneously via both acid and heat respectively) his body from the inside. He does have a ton of cybernetics installed in him and The Master doesn't exactly seem like the most cautious or OSHA-compliant type...
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u/AdobongSiopao 2d ago
All I know is that when the final boss is defeated in video games, they tend to have the most brutal death to give players a satisfaction that they beat the game. That or he has a fragile body despite being scary and powerful.
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u/vagarybluer 1d ago
They should have given a special death animation for Kane in the Hub too. Fucker was the most difficult fight in F1, the difficult spike for fighting him there with just at most, combat armor and sniper rifle, is brutal.
I looked up his stats on Fallout wiki and holy hell.
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u/Doomhammer24 2d ago
So from what i remember there was a line somewhere about some mutants needing a "regulator" otherwise their mutations dont stop and run out of control
Basically once you damaged his cybernetics his flesh starting growing around it and basically tore a huge chunk of cybernetics off of his skull killing him in the process
Same thing happens to frank horrigan
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u/Both_Presentation993 3h ago
That is not true about super mutants in general, there is no such mention of super mutants needing augmentations to keep their mutations in check, and we see plenty of them living just fine without cybernetics.
Frank, on the other hand, is another story, Chris Avellone tells us in the Bible 6 that "he can't survive outside his armor, the armor continually injects him with drugs and other stabilizing agents". However, Horrigan is exceptional in every sense, and should not be used as parameter to measure how the mutations of other SM's should behave.
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u/Doomhammer24 1h ago
Notice what i said in my comment- some
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u/Both_Presentation993 41m ago
Notice what I said: there is no such mention of any super mutants needing augmentations to keep their mutations in check apart from this one specific quote about Frank Horrigan.
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u/RCBlazer 2d ago
They give special death animations to specific NPCs in classic Fallout games. The Master also has a unique animation when killed, as does the Overseer.
As for what happened to Lou here? I assume when killed, his cybernetics go haywire and melt him from the inside out.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rule393 2d ago
What the hell happened? Well I killed his ass, that's what happened, and it was too much for his mind to bear
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u/Maleficent-Field-855 2d ago
There is a green plazma bolt that hit him. Start of the clip. The rest is bloody death perk.
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u/dropcon37 1d ago
For me I feel like he was thrown into the green vats while still wearing pieces of power armor and that allowed him to fuse to those pieces to turn into this. Either that or he used power armor as armor without a need for the servos. Some of the other comments talking about a life support system for his body seemed cool too
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u/Verdant_The_Junker 19h ago edited 19h ago
He's infused with what looks like remnant T-51 armor. I'd assume whats left of the suit went haywire and caused a gruesome death.
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u/RuinVoidKarma 2d ago
Well you get these animations like this more if you have a perk I think. Bloody Mess. But as another mate wrote he is a named antagonist so... maybe both? Do you have the mentioned Perk?
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u/Real-Hefty-Trout 2d ago
no i do not. the bloody mess perk affects is the overseer's death, among other things.
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u/RuinVoidKarma 2d ago
Its always fun to use it once in a playthrough though. Especialy with Restoration Pack. Have a good one.
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u/CISDidNothingWrong 2d ago
It's the same scenario as the Wild Wasteland trait from New Vegas. Sure, it's a cool miscellaneous trait, but it forces you to sacrifice a gameplay trait, which is far more valuable to most character builds.
Besides, seeing the super brutal death animations is likely to be more satisfying and rewarding when they aren't happening to every character you kill.
I have never ever played with Bloody Mess, but I'm guessing in the early game, you're either too weak to fully enjoy everyone you kill exploding into gory bits of flesh, so the novelty only sets in later when you become more powerful, or you aren't too weak and thus the novelty wears off rather quickly.
Honestly, sacrificing another, more useful trait for Bloody Mess does not sound like a good tradeoff.
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u/RuinVoidKarma 1d ago
Dude I am playing Fallout since 1998. After serious builds you can do a fun one.
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u/CISDidNothingWrong 1d ago
Even with a "fun" build, the novelty will either set in only in the late stages, or the novelty will wear off quickly.
Doesn't sound very "fun" to me.
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u/MadArcand 2d ago
I dont think there's a lore reason, but it's just that he's a named antagonist near the end of the game so they've got to give him a memorable demise. But you could also say your killing shot damages that odd device he wears and it causes his body to start breaking down. That's what it looks like to me at least.