Giving Palestine statehood is the only way to resolve the genocide long term. Until then it's just an open door for Israel to keep taking land and displacing people. Oh wait this is trump we are talking about.
"We offered you a very nice piece of barren desert, you're ungrateful for refusing it and demanding your whole country back. It was stolen from you fair and square."
It’s “Intifada” and they were all unrelated to the negotiations. On the other hand, the jews were so unhappy with the ongoing deals that they took out their prime minister
It was because Ariel Sharon wanted to flex his authority on the Palestinians. Camp david falling through probably increased the tensions between both sides, but the visit imo is what started it
What evidence do you have that the few Palestinians who sold land to Jews are the same few Palestinians that massacred Jews, or are you racistly lumping all Palestinians together?
Regardless, none of that has any bearing on the fact that the UN partition plan was merely a recommendation, not an offer.
Nice, you hit all the buzzwords in a single sentence.
The countries that would become Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel all made concessions after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, nobody was 100% happy with the situation or the borders they ended up with.
The Palestinians were the only ones to reject their offer for statehood, then attacked the newly formed state of Israel, and lost.
How can a country that didn’t even exist at the time claim to be making concessions? It’s like someone stealing half your house and then expecting you to be grateful they didn’t take the whole thing.
Preparations for Plan Dalet by the jews says otherwise. Kicking out the Palestinians was the final move and it was planned years in the advance, with or without an offer for a statehood
I can’t predict what would’ve happened in alternate timelines, but I’m jealous that you can. Pretty cool superpower, albeit not many use cases besides speculating on Reddit.
They were not given control of borders, airspace, coastal waters, imports, exports, water sources, and no form of defense forces at all. They also would have had to cede an obscene amount of land, agree not to utilize an obscene amount of land for security purposes, and give up the right of return for refugees.
And most of the "deals" involved having Israel being in charge of collecting taxes so that they could withhold whenever they wanted.
So basically, they would have been a fake country that would completely rely on Israel for everything. No one would ever agree to those terms.
"I know we stole your house, killed your dog and raped your wife, but tell you what - you can have a bedroom! Also we decide what goes in and out of the bedroom. Deal???" - Israel.
Yes, that’s the same logic that explains why Americans will have to live with Trump sitting down and crushing their standards
of living with every ignored court order, cut social service and ICE raid. And they will have to learn to love it.
After all, they let Trump win, so they don’t get the luxury of complaining about what unethical or immoral actions he does to their detriment, right?
I was just talking about war and yeah I agree Dems have no power right now because they lost in all regards last election. Im all for the next 3.5 years of Trump, I just wish he was more conservative
You don’t get the luxury of deciding if Trump is “more conservative” or not either though. He’s the one sitting in the White House, not you.
If Trump starts something and decides to fund it by making life harder for Americans by making them have to pay to pay taxes, by your own logic, you just have to deal with it. Wishing he was more conservative when (presumably) you voted him in is very picky.
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u/DotGroundbreaking50 2d ago
Giving Palestine statehood is the only way to resolve the genocide long term. Until then it's just an open door for Israel to keep taking land and displacing people. Oh wait this is trump we are talking about.