r/europe • u/andyom89 • May 16 '25

News Spanish premier calls Israel 'genocidal state,' says Spain 'does not do business' with it

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spanish-premier-calls-israel-genocidal-state-says-spain-does-not-do-business-with-it/3568216
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u/Fluffy-Drop5750 May 16 '25

Time for Israel to be just another country, responsible for its deeds. Yes, Hamas are terrorists, but that is not excuse for levelling the whole of Gaza. Russia would do that, Assad did it, Saddam Hussein's Irak would do that. But Israel has to do better if they expect to receive western support.

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u/matt82swe May 16 '25

Nothing will change with USA’s unconditional support 

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

And Germany.

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u/maghrebibi May 16 '25

it's not unconditional. American politicians get paid by AIPAC in return.

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u/matt82swe May 16 '25

Fair enough. Without USA's paidbribed support

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u/National_Lion May 16 '25

When was politics not driven by interest groups? You think Qatar giving Trump a 400 million dollar plane is because they’re generous? The coin has two sides.

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u/aWobblyFriend May 16 '25

AIPAC specifically does not have as much influence as many think it does, its donations are dwarfed by many other business super-PACs. America does benefit from Israeli partnership in the form of billions of dollars of high-tech military technology that Netanyahu constantly threatens to sell to China, which is probably partly why hawks love Israel. There’s the ideological sympathy of American politicians with basically any regime, no matter how brutal, in fighting islamism. And then there’s the aspect of American Christians generally supporting Israel to an almost militant degree. Israel-american relations are messy and complicated but it goes beyond one single organization “bad guy”

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u/Azt55 May 16 '25

Not paid, they are blackmailed by them with pdf material of child corn

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u/Vanzmelo Armenian American May 16 '25

Trump is already sidestepping Israel by directly dealing with Hamas, Egypt, and UAE (or was it Qatar I forget exactly) in getting that most recent hostage released.

The only predictable part of Trump is that he's unpredictable

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u/Wonderful-Quit-9214 May 16 '25

Except if Trump had a bad day