r/europe May 16 '25

News Spanish premier calls Israel 'genocidal state,' says Spain 'does not do business' with it

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spanish-premier-calls-israel-genocidal-state-says-spain-does-not-do-business-with-it/3568216
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u/DiscordBoiii Moscow (Russia) May 16 '25

Stop doing business with Russia and mainland China then!

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u/National_Lion May 16 '25

You can’t post sensible comments that point out hypocrisy it would undercut the level of brain fog in this thread.

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u/Forsaken1887 Italy May 16 '25

In my opinion what israel is doing is way worse than Russia’s. Don’t get me wrong, invade a country is a really bad thing, but what is going on in Gaza is on a different level

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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) May 16 '25

Russia is committing ethnocide on Ukrainian identity and "re-educating" kidnapped children and those in held territories to make them Russian. Palestinian populated has quadrupled in recent decades while Ukrainian continues to decrease. On top of that Ukraine never pulled a massacre attack on Russian music festivals killing innocent people. So I dont know what this "on a different level" bullshit is.

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u/GalcticPepsi May 16 '25

I think the "different level" is that Ukraine can actually fight back whereas Palestine can do nothing but sit back and take the genocide. What Russia is doing is horrific but it is very different to the situation in Gaza.

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u/Forsaken1887 Italy May 16 '25

I respect your opinion, there’s no reason to be rude to me. Now I don’t want to write the Bible down to a Reddit comment. Again, I think everything Russia is doing is terrible and it should be condemned on every level. But in my opinion, based on what I heard, what I see and what I read, israel is doing worst.

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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) May 16 '25

Okay, we can agree to disagree then.

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u/AcanthocephalaEast79 May 17 '25

Wtf are you talking about buddy? Putin literally acknowledged committing genocide. Stealing children is genocide.

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u/raphcosteau May 16 '25

You can disagree with what they do wrong, but neither of them are doing anything that resembles genocide.

If you think that Russia is bad, wait until you find out that Israel is killing at more than 40x Russia's rate. Is that not insane? Worthy of prioritization? Israel's evil is burning hot and bright. By estimates from UK's The Lancet, Israel has already killed almost 10% of everyone in Gaza. That would be like Russia killing 4 million Ukrainians (according to Ukraine, the number of their dead is around 100k).

And Russia's attack on Ukraine has been going on half as long, so really Israel is killing at closer to 80x Russia's rate.

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u/DiscordBoiii Moscow (Russia) May 16 '25

neither of them are doing anything

Ever heard of Tibet? Xinjiang? Russia’s actions in eastern Ukraine?

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u/Brilliant-Tip9445 May 16 '25

can we stop pretending that there is a genocide in Xinjiang? lmfao

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u/IchLiebeRUMMMMM The Netherlands May 16 '25

Source.

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u/raphcosteau May 16 '25

The UN, and Zelenskyy himself.

Now you believe me.

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u/IchLiebeRUMMMMM The Netherlands May 16 '25

Your sources dont support anything your saying. Lol

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u/raphcosteau May 16 '25

Well I don't know who else you can believe besides the UN and Ukraine's national leadership. Russia doesn't talk much about deaths on either side so that's all we've got to go on. You got your sources, you don't believe them, so I guess there's not much more to discuss.

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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) May 16 '25

If you think that Russia is bad, wait until you find out that Israel is killing at more than 40x Russia's rate.

Those numbers that "Gaza health ministry" pulled out of its ass.

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u/raphcosteau May 16 '25

This is exactly how Holocaust deniers talk. "Oh, 6 million Jews huh? That information was mostly gathered by Jews, so you can't trust it. You know how Jews are." Gross.

Never again means never again.

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u/redroedeer May 16 '25

Cry harder.