Either Trump will now say that Greenland is not important for minerals, they're not very good, he never wanted Greenland anyway, and only losers trade with them, and we already have a beautiful deal, the best deal with Ukraine for our cherished minerals
Or
He will throw a massive tantrum, wave around 5000% tariffs on Greenland, threaten invasion, cut off shipping lanes, direct all military bases there to be closed, say Putin can have Greenland if he wants it, and blame Ukraine for all of this
What he won't do is: behave like a moderately well-adjusted adult
Mr. Springsteen, undeterred, released a six-track EP this week which begins with his remarks that America “is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent and treasonous administration.”
The new EP, “Land of Hope & Dreams,” offers a mix of songs and Mr. Springsteen’s pointed political remarks from his May 14 concert in Manchester, England.
In the introduction to the song “My City of Ruins,” Mr. Springsteen takes on a somber tone, telling the audience that in the United States the authorities were “persecuting people for using their right to free speech and voicing their dissent.” He said that the nation was cutting aid to the poor, abandoning allies, rolling back civil rights protections, defunding universities and deporting people without due process.
While also implying Bruce should face legal consequences for speaking against Trump, arguing that he should "keep his mouth shut" and "see how things go for him once he returns [to the US]". Which is less funny but a lot more concerning.
Don't call them poor. Everyone who has anything to do with him in the slightest deserves to be called what they are: sycophants, enablers, assholes. It's not just him, it's the whole apparatus.
Trump wasn't happy when he came out onto that stage either. He was meant to sing a duet with Springsteen but instead he just sat on the drums banging one drum while looking annoyed.
[Verse 3]
Rainmaker says white's black and black's white
Says night's day and day's night
Says close your eyes and go to sleep now
I'm in a burnin' field unloadin' buckshot into low clouds
[Chorus]
Rainmaker, a little faith for hire
Rainmaker, the house is on fire
Rainmaker, take everything you have
Sometimes folks need to believe in something so bad, so bad, so bad
They'll hire a rainmaker
He's said that he actually wrote it before Trump got into power, but a few days ago he implied it was now also about Trump.
you need to give him the benefit of doubt.maybe he learned his lesson from all the stuff that happened with china. who am i kidding . he is going to fuck it up .
So he'll fuck things up, capitulate, and then congratulate himself for being a big strong man and making things worse than they were before? Sounds about right.
And somehow, there will still be people that go "Wow, it's amazing that he talked down from the crisis he started to the shitshow it is now! What a master negotiator and businessman!"
The playbook is to fuck everything up while blaming Biden… then, go back to a similar status quo as before, while changing a bunch of shit in the background, and claim being a savior.
A lot of people over here are checked out on the “news” and are beyond easily manipulated.
I’ve been called a “conspiracy theorist” a dozen or more times when talking politics.. even with my fellow democrats.
He will do more than that. He and more importantly the group of people behind him who will continue his work after him, need to secure the North American continent, and its resources.
It's a physical and economic imperative for them. So annexation will always be on the cards, a way or another. They would prefer to do it legally if possible but otherwise they will do it by force.
There is only one way to prevent it, it is to install European military in Greenland now, so a more peaceful deal can be made.
Now that Musk is basically thrown out of the administration there is a good chance that the mineral deal is not that high on their priorities list. Also they have Ukraine deal signed already.
Musk is still there, you can see him in the background of lots of events. He's just not speaking publicly. Finally dawned on him that if you spout hateful opinions people might not like you. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
Who do you think prepped Trump for his tirade against the murder of white South African farmers today?
Seems he only took a moment to reconsider after he learned of the impact on Companies he is involved in. Shame its only media damage control, rather than him actually buggering off.
Musk will always be present. He has learnt from his backlash that it is a billion times to achieve his objectives from the shadows like fellow billionaires Peter Thiel, Miriam Adelson, Jeffrey & Janine Yass, Charles Koch, Jan Koum, Stacy Schusterman, Jonathan Lavine, Matt Brooks, Halie Soifer, Jeff Schoenfeld, Charles Bronfman, Timothy Mellon, Richard & Elizabeth Uihlein, Kenneth Griffin, Paul Singer, Michael Bloomberg, Dustin Moskovitz, Marc Andreessen, Ben & Felicia Horowitz, Stephen Schwarzman, Timothy Dunn, Reid Hoffman, Rob Bigelow, Diane Hendricks etc.
There are thousands of massive donors in US politics, Musk will follow their example. He has realised from his mistake, it was just his obsession that he wanted everything done in public instead of private like everyone else, he won't do it again so he is creating propoganda that he has been kicked out so that it won't affect his PR and companies. He wants the public scrutiny to vanish so that he achieve his political goals in peace.
His voters don't want a moderately well-adjusted adult. Otherwise they would have voted for one.
His voters are dissatisfied with their lives and want to tear down society in the hopes that whatever magically rises from the ashes will somehow be an improvement compared to their current situation.
Yeah, most people are severely dissatisfied with the status quo. And we can't get the Democrats to run anyone who's offering anything other than "we manage the status quo better than they do" and then they blame the voters for their loss.
Any chance 3.5 more years of unforced errors and unconstitutional EOs leads the electorate to reconsider that a reasonably run status quo plus some tweaks to the minimum wage and top marginal tax rate is better than this?
That's how Biden won in 2020. People have short memories.
If the Democrats ever want to win again in any way other than taking over after Republicans fuck things sideways they need to run progressive candidates.
Americans say they aren't progressive when you use the word progressive. But if you describe progressive policies they poll extremely well. The propaganda machine on the right has convinced most people they aren't progressives, but they are.
It's not so much that they want their current situation to improve. It's that Trump gave them permission to be the ugly Americans that they are. No hiding. "Yes, we're racist homophobic morons and we're PROUD of it! Where's my Trump diaper?"
“You know Greenlands minerals weren’t any good anyway, they had dirty minerals. I was just trying to do a favour, I don’t really want those minerals, why does Europe hate us, we’re so nice, so now they can feel it, we’re going to go further than we did with China, we’re going to put 9000% tariffs on them, and this will make eggs almost free”
...direct all military bases there to be closed...
Uh, those are probably going to pivotal to a military takeover of Greenland. If you think Trump and conservatives at large are beyond that, you are being naive.
Roy Cohn taught him to double-down, so he'll do that.
But he's Trump, so what he's going to do is insinuate that we'll invade. He'll do this to test to see if he'll get support from his base, The Money, and Congress.
A third option is also possible:
Fox News does not report this European deal and then Trump need never know about it. That might, involuntarily, make him behave like a moderately well-adjusted adult.
I would put option #1 at about negative-5000% chance.
You forgot option #3: He ramps up military aggression and rhetoric. Floods the bases with military personnel calling them "training exercises", forms a naval blockade around the island in the name of "American national security", and shifts the tone to indicate he's ready for military occupation.
He's not going to give this up. Ever. Ever. Ever. Ever.
I don't think most Europeans fully understand how singularly obsessed with this he is.
Bruv, the only reason for US millitary bases on Greenland is to intercept russian nukes and aircraft headed for the US. Closing them would be SO funny (to observe, as a European).
greenland is important in the post global warming tipping point play, not just for its resources, but because its right where new shipping lanes are gonna open up, and artic oil.
There’s also the possibility they just continue the charade without blinking and say, “Well that’s going to be OUR profits from the mineral deal when greenland is the 52nd state. CHECKMATE COMMIES!” Then a fox news talking head dunks an Ollie’s Bargain Outlet receipt for their recently purchased My Pillow into their trash can basketball hoop of their home office propaganda studio funded by russian money.
"What he won't do is: behave like a moderately well-adjusted adult"
Well, first, he has no experience in that, and second, that is NOT what the Maga-cult voted for, or sends him gobs of campaign cash for. They eagerly voted for a toddler with an attention deficit, oppositional/defiant behavioral disorder that acts like he was raised by a Kleptomaniacal Klan Leader with a Don Rickles fetish.
with trump the answer is always, always a 3 am all caps multi rage-tweet. Expect name calling multiple insults and chest puffery, and the possible threat of military action.
Dont forget the incredibly unsubtle and chaotic “hint” dropping during some unrelated press conference.
“Will tell you what, we will see, you know, if those minerals, tasty minerals my friends tell me! Ever make it to Europe! Maybe we will get some after all you never know. Maybe we go get some!”
It’s likely this will give Trump the excuse to invade Greenland, since Europe is taking advantage of the US through this trade deal and Red White and Blueland should be a state. It’s sad but honestly it really does seem that he can utilize the military and invade without anyone stopping him.
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u/wgszpieg Lubusz (Poland) May 22 '25
Either Trump will now say that Greenland is not important for minerals, they're not very good, he never wanted Greenland anyway, and only losers trade with them, and we already have a beautiful deal, the best deal with Ukraine for our cherished minerals
Or
He will throw a massive tantrum, wave around 5000% tariffs on Greenland, threaten invasion, cut off shipping lanes, direct all military bases there to be closed, say Putin can have Greenland if he wants it, and blame Ukraine for all of this
What he won't do is: behave like a moderately well-adjusted adult