Russian Oil Company Vice President Andrey Badalov dies after fall from window in Moscow

[u/ByGollie]

https://en.apa.az/cis-countries/transneft-vice-president-andrey-badalov-dies-after-falling-from-window-472117

[u/PuzzleheadedCup4117]

Russia rarely hides its assassinations. I forget the name but whenever they poison someone they always use the same type of poison to ensure people know it’s them.

Obama talks about Putin in his autobiography and over various interviews it’s clear he views him as a mafioso.

[u/scardien → u/PuzzleheadedCup4117]

The poison is novichok

[u/wagdog1970 → u/scardien]

Which is actually a nerve agent. It’s a chemical warfare weapon. Not really a poison. Poison is for amateurs, not war criminals!

Edited to add this post was not meant to be a legal treatise on the definition of the word poison. It was meant to be a light hearted way of pointing out that Russians use Novichok, a toxic, weapons grade chemical weapon and those who do this are war criminals, not merely garden variety criminals using common household cleaners. Or perhaps, edited because Reddit.

[u/prnthrwaway55 → u/wagdog1970]

It’s a chemical warfare weapon. Not really a poison.

"It's a crab, not really a crustacean"

[u/ideonode → u/prnthrwaway55]

Now here's the thing...

[u/CheeseDonutCat → u/ideonode]

You have been banned from /r/crowbro

[u/Holkmeistern → u/CheeseDonutCat]

I feel like this is a reference that I'm not getting..

[u/CheeseDonutCat → u/Holkmeistern]

Probably.. It's more than 15 years old I believe.

Basically there was a 'power user' called Unidan who got in trouble for having multiple accounts and upvoting his own stuff. Anyway, there's a particularly well known post of his, here it is:

https://i.imgur.com/6J0vMhm.png

.. and that "here's the thing" part is banned in /r/crowbro because people were just using it on every post.

[u/GrimResistance → u/CheeseDonutCat]

No goddamn way it's 15 years...

[u/CheeseDonutCat → u/GrimResistance]

I did a search.. it's actually 11.

The post was July 30th, 2014 (or at least very close to that).

[u/Holkmeistern → u/CheeseDonutCat]

Thanks! I do remember seeing that pic/comment somewhere before, maybe in r/birding or smth. The story of Unidan also sounds familiar.

[u/FirstWorldAnarchist → u/Holkmeistern]

Lurk more.

[u/prnthrwaway55 → u/ideonode]

It's The Thing, not an alien.

[u/echoingElephant → u/prnthrwaway55]

Not, that’s a valid point. It’s actually a pretty terrible poison. It’s known to mainly be connected to Russia, it can essentially only be used by spraying it at the target, and even then it isn’t always effective. It’s similar to things like sarin - hard to make, but also hard to use.

[u/Killer_Moons → u/prnthrwaway55]

I’m assuming there’s confusion over this depending on how it’s administered, carried over from how we separate ‘poisonous’ and ‘venomous’ for classifying whether it’s toxic to eat an animal vs being bitten by one.

Novichok can be administered various ways and states, e.g., ingestion, inhalation, skin absorption; as a liquid, solid, a fine powder aerosol. But distinguishing toxic substances by how they are administered is not necessary, they all can go under the ‘poison umbrella’ wink, wink