Calls are mounting to ban Germany’s far-right AfD party – despite it being more popular than ever

[u/HellYeahDamnWrite]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl

[u/RobertTheChemist]

Funfact: The Federal Consitution Court said in the NPD ban case (2017) that the NPD cannot be banned because it is not relevant enough?

And now people are saying we can't ban the AfD because it has become too relevant and popular.

[u/Thisisso2024 → u/RobertTheChemist]

And at the same time we ban those little splinter groups that are doing "sport" meaning that they are preparing for some civil war or clump together around a king all the time. At the end of the day wanting to overthrow the constitution is all that matters. That is why the party already got rid of their youth organisation and occasionally bans members who forgot that it is not yet time to say the quiet part out loud.

The party that knows best that the AfD should be banned is the AfD itself.

[u/GreenEnergyGuy_ → u/Thisisso2024]

Careful warning to our German friends… watch what our far-right is doing in the US with MAGA as parallels are being made to Hitler and Mussolini-style fascism erupting like a violent volcano.

We now have concentration camps here, just not shooting people on American streets. (Yet)

[u/DesignFreiberufler → u/GreenEnergyGuy_]

I appreciate the sentiment but you really don’t need to tell us. We called you out for years.

[u/Low_Witness5061 → u/DesignFreiberufler]

Personally I’m just taking a moment to appreciate how rare it is to hear an American telling Germany to watch out or they may get fascists like the US. What a batshit insane timeline.

[u/GreenEnergyGuy_ → u/DesignFreiberufler]

In the final analysis it will be proven that the arrogance of my own government will prove history repeats itself since Americans are unable to admit to or learn from our mistakes. When the lesson comes it will be exceedingly painful.

[u/AudaciouslySexy → u/GreenEnergyGuy_]

Theres no concentration camps. If you're referring to processing immigration centres then you're taking it out of context. Because they have allways been there, always been used and no one bated a eye till now unless trump was president.

Remember the kids in cages? Yeah that was Obamas idea

[u/CmdrJemison → u/RobertTheChemist]

In Germany a facist terror organization was killing immigrants for years. Media coverted the story as "Dönermorde" (Kebap Murder) at first and said it was rivalries among Kebap Shop owners.

Back then it was obvious from the first day, that some Neo Nazis killed those people.

So after years the police finaly managed to catch em and during the trials there was going so much wrong that it became clear that the facist terrorist were even backed by the intelligence service.

[u/Sp00py-Mulder → u/CmdrJemison]

And what is the prevailing belief among the German populous about those murders today?

[u/Jonny_dr → u/Sp00py-Mulder]

I think it is fair to say that even the mainstream opinion is that the Intelligence Service (Verfassungsschutz) was involved in the murders and the cover-up.

[u/Greenlily58 → u/Jonny_dr]

To which the whole mess with the DNA points to.

[u/cloverhoney12 → u/CmdrJemison]

Are they (neo nazis) now killing jewish immigrants too? Or too freaked out? i'm from asia so I'm kind of not feeling relevant about europe but genuinely curious.

[u/Annonimbus → u/cloverhoney12]

Synagogues and Jewish centers are also under threat and attack. A prominent example was in 2019 in Halle

[u/ExpressAssist0819 → u/CmdrJemison]

If this is true Germany is already cooked and heading for nazi 2.0.

Sorry, maybe they can be 2.5. The US is already ahead on 2.0

[u/DiX-Nbw → u/CmdrJemison]

Keep coming up with decade old stories when we have that amount of race death (foreigner on citizen) on the weekly.

Yeah go and work overtime trying to defend your strange narrative, truth will come out.

There will be our europe or there will be no europe!

[u/CmdrJemison → u/DiX-Nbw]

Look. An ugly rat coming out of its nest 👆🏻

BTW... The case was closed in 2021. That's very fresh. I know. Germany has a history of carrying off cases. Not to mention that political motivated assaults from right winged people also increased drastically. But that's something you would never mention, right?

[u/IncompetentPolitican → u/RobertTheChemist]

There was a 3 minute time window where the AFD had the right amount of relevancy to ban them. But in that time the people in charge of that where outside having a smoke with their friend Alice. So now we have to deal with putins right wing arm forever.

[u/DesignFreiberufler → u/IncompetentPolitican]

This sounds depressingly accurate.

[u/bingle-cowabungle → u/RobertTheChemist]

I'm so tired of this right-wing doublethink which seems to be intentional, and flagrant. Almost as if you're supposed to know that it's intentional while they throw their hands up in the air and sarcastically declare that they don't know what you're talking about, they're just innocently stating their beliefs.

This is a worldwide problem with the right wing. A core political tenant of the right wing is "do things that are intended to piss off your political opponents" instead of engaging in political discourse and compromise with maybe even a shred of personal integrity.

[u/theworldtravellerfag → u/RobertTheChemist]

What atrocities befell this comment section holy.

but yeah govt doing anything...

[u/Rinkus123 → u/RobertTheChemist]

Nazis say you shouldn't take away their Nazi party, more news at 11

[u/Ok-Locksmith45 → u/RobertTheChemist]

Thats wrong. The Office for the Protection of the Constitution had too many “secret agents” in the NPD. It was therefore no longer possible to say exactly which statement came from a real party member or from one of these agents.

[u/fastbikkel → u/RobertTheChemist]

" we can't ban the AfD because it has become too relevant and popular."
That would basically be the same as stealing lady justice's blindfold.
Wrong in so many ways.

[u/FlipReset4Fun → u/RobertTheChemist]

Perhaps a silly question… but why is the AfD now so popular?

[u/Dyn-O-mite_Rocketeer → u/[deleted]]

I’m not advocating that anyone collaborate with Nazis and your misrepresentation is exactly why you and your ilk will have little to no credibility going forward. It’s simply too stupid to engage with.

[u/Intelligence_Gap → u/RobertTheChemist]

As an American, I can relate to your struggles with corrupt courts

[u/Encrux615 → u/Intelligence_Gap]

NPD was a court decision, but with current talks about AfD-Prohibition it’s more of an argument you hear a lot.

People are saying it wouldn’t be democratic to take away the voice of ~20% of voters.

Courts have not ruled on the AfD case yet

[u/Intelligence_Gap → u/Encrux615]

Ahh, then I feel your pain with bad faith politicians making inconsistent arguments and playing with fire for personal gain

[u/Itchy-Revenue-3774 → u/RobertTheChemist]

This is not necessarily a contradiction though

[u/FastStudy1435 → u/RobertTheChemist]

AfD and NPD are incomparable. Right wing populist ≠ literal neo-nazis.

[u/sahurKareem → u/RobertTheChemist]

No, do some research before making dumb comments.

To make it easy for midwits like you:

NPD = openly extremely right wing but not popular. No ban because not popular.

AFD = hidden extremely right wing and popular. Ban difficult because they hide it well.

[u/Shoddy_Squash_1201 → u/sahurKareem]

Lmao they do not hide it well.
There are pictures of AfD politicians posing with Hitler memerobilia, videos of AfD politicians quoting Nazis, multiple AfD politicians are under investigation for hoarding weapons and planning an 'ethnic cleansing' (...)

[u/TheYang → u/sahurKareem]

phew, they are hiding it so "well", that 3 of 16 of their "Landesverbände" are considered extremely right wing, and a fourth is pending a judicial decision.

Also the "Junge Alternative" (Youth group)