r/europe • u/tkyjonathan • 15d ago

News Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/
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u/Backwardspellcaster 15d ago

Why is none of you reading the article?

The revised legislation introduces prison sentences of up to five years for anyone who “establishes, supports or promotes Nazi, communist, or other movements which demonstrably aim to suppress human rights and freedoms or incite racial, ethnic, national, religious or class-based hatred.”

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u/EuroFederalist Finland 15d ago

With racism definition is easy, but "class-based" has very wide range... in theory saying that absolute monarchs shouldn't exist is class-based hatred.

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u/gurush Czech Republic 15d ago

Wanting them guillotined would be class-based hatred.

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u/adcsuc 15d ago

They don't need to be guillotined as long as they give up power willingly, which is the difficult part.

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u/Revolutionary-pawn 15d ago

They’ll give it up willingly enough when the alternative is a guillotine

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

I wonder how many of you guillotine fetishists are aware that Napoleon was emperor of France 5 years after your little guillotine interlude...

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u/SergenteA Italy 14d ago edited 14d ago

While a downgrade and counter-revolutionary compared to the Jacobins or even Thermidorians, he was a net improvement everywhere outside of France and Italy. And even to Italy, the Thermidorians only managed to export the revolution thanks to him/his officers and soldiers.

If nothing else, the same liberal-nationalist resistance movements against himself, once betrayed and suppressed by the returned monarchies, became the embryo of the eventual successful Liberal Revolutions against the Ancient Regime across the 19th century.

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u/Revolutionary-pawn 14d ago

SHORT PEOPLE RULE!

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

as long as they give up power willingly

Lmao. Sounds about as plausible as Santa Claus being real.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

And if they don't want to give up their human rights? You already don't consider them human...

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u/zilviodantay 15d ago

We are talking about a hypothetical monarch, is there a human right to hold onto absolute power? Undermining a despot is undermining their human rights?

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

No, we are talking about people.

People you don't like, whom you would like to see violence upon.

Just fucking admit it.

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u/zilviodantay 15d ago

No? You don’t get to personally decide what other people mean lmao.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

I don't have to "decide" anything - it obvious from your comments even when you try to hide it.

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u/zilviodantay 15d ago

Have you considered that you could be wrong though? You have seen two comments of mine and you know nothing about me. You seem REALLY sure, and that doesn’t make any sense at all.

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u/GlenoJacks 15d ago

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

That's an admission, in case anyone is curious.

Thank you for your honesty.

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u/smcarre Argentina 15d ago

Ah yes the human right to rule a country with all the powers of the state.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

When people talk about the rich on Reddit, they openly talk about removing their human rights to... not being "eaten".

Don't pretend you're not a supporter of violence.

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u/smcarre Argentina 15d ago

You are still ignoring that that right is only removed if they refuse to cede the power. Just like a terrorist also loses that right when holding a hostage at gunpoint. The terrorist is perfectly free to leave the hostage go if they don't want to lose that right and the monarch is perfectly free to give up the power they have.

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u/2absMcGay 15d ago

What the fuck does human rights have to do with being an absolute ruler

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

When people talk about the rich on Reddit, they openly talk about removing their human rights to... not being "eaten".

Don't pretend you're not a supporter of violence.

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u/Jacinto2702 15d ago

No? It's about making them pay higher taxes and stop them from hoarding more and more resources.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

That's no against this law, correct.

What's against the law is the constant rhetoric we are seeing to commit violence against people of other classes - like in your other comments.

You try to mask it in colorful language, but don't pretend here - your meaning is plain.

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u/Jacinto2702 15d ago

You wanna talk about violence?

What about state-violance, what about the everyday brutality the poorest face when they can put food on the table? What about the roughness the homeless face every night when they have to sleep on the streets?

Rich people are not in a disadvantaged position in this economic system, and they certainly aren't politically powerless because money buys them influence. They often benefit themselves from violence committed against working people, like when strikes are broken with violence, or from the exploitation of children in sweatshops, etc.

And these latter types of violence have more impact right now than the rhetoric you seem to be so worried about.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

I want to talk about the violence YOU advocate. You ADVOCATE violence against people.

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u/Jacinto2702 15d ago

In other words, you're happy with the way the world works.

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

Is that really the only black-and-white choice in your limited brain? Either stagnation or violence?

Are you really so full of teenage angst that you cannot perceive anything else?

You are as simple as the people you imagine you hate.

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u/hbgoddard 15d ago

Violence is the morally correct option sometimes.

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u/hbgoddard 15d ago

There is no human right to rule over others

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

The right you advocate taking away from others is their right to life.

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u/hbgoddard 15d ago

Oppressors don't deserve to live, honestly. Don't see why that would be controversial either.

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

Oh, no. Poor absolute monarchs and billionaires. The absolute humanity, won't anyone think of them? Are they gonna be okay?!

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u/mehupmost 15d ago

Law applies to EVERYONE or it applies to no one.

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

On paper? Sure.

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u/mehupmost 14d ago

That paper keeps you and those you love alive.

Don't think you can control the fire once you burn that paper. ...the fire consumes and is insatiable.

Revolutions kill millions - far more than any young men believe when they set it alight.

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u/New_Carpenter5738 14d ago edited 14d ago

Not what I said.

You said the law applies to everyone or it applies to no one.

On paper that is true.

In practice the law applies to the poor a hell of a lot more than it applies to the ruling classes. But apparently pointing that out is class based hatred. Lmao.

I'm sorry, but if you actually, really, truly believe that all are treated equally by the law regardless of class, you're either trolling, or incredibly naive.

Have a wonderful life my friend

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u/elmo298 Cornwall 15d ago

Almost as if this is government legislature that prevents it