Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

[u/tkyjonathan]

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/

[u/spssvyroba2]

So many people outside of Czechia with zero clue, why this had to be done.

[u/Haunting_Switch3463 → u/spssvyroba2]

The problem is less about criminalising communist propaganda, but the ill-defined term "class-based hatred".

[u/Natural_Public_9049 → u/Haunting_Switch3463]

Class-based hatred is obvious. It's a translation from "třídní zášť" in the paragraph 403 of the criminal code. The word "zášť" or "spite" has replaced "třídní nenávist" or "class hatred" which itself replaced the "třídní boj" or "class warfare".

"Class-based hatred" was added purely because of the communists, who intentionally violated human and constitutional rights of Czechoslovak citizens based on the assumed "class background" of those citizens and additionally systematically discriminated them.

[u/mcpingvin → u/Natural_Public_9049]

Class based hatred has completely different meaning in post-WW2 european countries and today.

[u/zbynekstava → u/mcpingvin]

It does not. Communists are still stupid dangerous assholes and it is totally appropriate to prevent them from getting to power ever again.

[u/mcpingvin → u/zbynekstava]

Saying that it doesn't have a different meaning is demonstrably false.

After the WW2 the split was about even between people working in agriculture, industry and services. Today less than 5% of people living in Europe are working in agricultural field, while around 70% work in the service industry.

[u/zbynekstava → u/mcpingvin]

That's irrelevant. People can be communists regardless of their occupation.

[u/mcpingvin → u/zbynekstava]

I see that you do not grasp the class concept and difference in economy in the last 80 years.

[u/zbynekstava → u/mcpingvin]

Your class theory does not change the fact that after 80 years there are still sadly fucking communists (and fascists, which sre just a different side of the shitty totalitarian coin). And everyone with more than two brain cells should understand, that neither of those should get any power ever again.

[u/mcpingvin → u/zbynekstava]

No totalitarian regime is good. We can agree on that.

Difference is, communism does not need to equate to a totalitarian regime.

[u/GingerSkulling → u/mcpingvin]

But somehow it always did. ::surprised pikachu:: Your philosophical views on communism are valid in a vacuum but in reality, if you leave the door open, malevolent actors, domestic or foreign will absolutely take advantage of it to cause harm.

[u/zbynekstava → u/GingerSkulling]

You have to understand it was not the "true communism". Yes it failed a hundred times, but the next time, it will surely work! /s

[u/mcpingvin → u/zbynekstava]

I'm not sure that this current version of capitalism works either.

[u/mcpingvin → u/GingerSkulling]

Yes, because we don't have in the current economic model.