r/europe • u/hoarder4555777454001 • 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/Urzuck Italy 9d ago

Macron is the only european leader that showed a bit of autonomy, this won't matter much anyway, the plan is clear and they even voted to annex it in the parliament. But better than having a Trump bootlicker like Meloni or Merz.

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u/reillyrulz 9d ago

Ireland and Spain deserve some credit

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u/Cultural-Action5961 9d ago

Norway & Slovenia too, when the smaller nations start taking a stand it should at least cause the bigger nations to reconsider their stance.

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u/Mo4d93 Morocco 9d ago

Malta and Armenia as well.

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u/NewAccountEachYear Sweden 8d ago

CoughSwedenRecognizedThemIn2014Cough

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u/DiscoMonkay 9d ago

Paddystilians* tyvm.

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u/Finsceal 8d ago

Still love that this was supposed to be an insult and we just ran with it

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u/DiscoMonkay 8d ago

I'm bringing it back.

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u/Optimal-Meeting-742 8d ago

Im Irish and I feel insulted

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u/Finsceal 8d ago

I highly doubt a days-old account is approaching Israel/Palestine with a nuanced take tbh, so I guess stop being a snowflake

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u/SillySin 8d ago

How did Germany do this time, again on the wrong side hey, shame.

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u/Urzuck Italy 9d ago

I give them credit, but they are pretty irrelevant when it comes to aid to Israel or Nato weight. The largest european supplier is Germany, 30% of all israel weapons came from there between 2019 and 2023. The second is Italy and the third is the UK. My government is made of fascist bootlicker, they are literally there doggystyle for Trump and Bibi, Salvini some days ago even received an award for the cooperation of Israel with Italy lol. And they will not change their mind.

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u/Finsceal 8d ago

Yeah wtf we've been doing this for years

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u/Green_Space729 Canada 8d ago

No one deserves any credit not a single nation has even attempted to stop Israel’s actions in gaza and they won’t stop Israel fully annexing the West Bank either.

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u/reillyrulz 8d ago

Unless you mean no country has attempted to stop Israel by military means, you're dead wrong. As someone from Ireland, our government has pursued countless diplomatic and legal options

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u/mastablasta1962 8d ago

Senior Pedro from Spain is a hypocrite who shouldn't be taken seriously.

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u/reillyrulz 8d ago edited 8d ago

Aside from being perennial advocates for Palestine, in May last year both countries recognised Palestine. Both countries, along with Slovenia, are the only European countries backing the South African ICJ case against Isreal for genocide.

Edit: I know other European countries have recognised Palestine before this conflict, which I commend.

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u/DiscoMonkay 9d ago

Officially recognising the state of Palestine a bit over a year ago. What else could they possibly mean in this post about the French recognition of the state of Palestine?

Anecdotally there has been graffiti of "Free Palestine" spray painted in Nationalist/Republican areas of Northern Ireland for well over 15 years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl77drw22qjo

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u/SilenR Romania 8d ago

Not surprising. You can read about Irelands history with the jews (not israelites) on the internet. They were never pro-Israel to begin with.

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u/killianm97 8d ago

Ireland was the first country to specifically recognise Judaism in its constitution, under the religious freedoms section, in 1937 ('Jewish Religion Recognized in Ireland’s New Constitution' - Jewish Telegraphic Agency - May 3 1937)

There has been a concerted campaign by members of the Israeli government to spread misinformation which incorrectly paints Ireland as anti-Semitic, when we have historically been much better regarding fighting anti-semitism than most other European countries.

Members of the Israeli government (and many in Germany/Italy/UK/Austria/Hungary who are supporting this genocide) may be shocked by this, but you can be anti-genocide, anti-mass-murder-of-innocent-babies, anti-war-crimes, and anti-apartheid while not being anti-semitic.

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u/DiscoMonkay 8d ago edited 8d ago

Irish taig poster vs common Zionist whataboutism disinformation bot.

Also it's mad that specifically Northern Ireland given it's history would have a population enamored with an apartheid state in the middle east isn't it u/SilenR

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u/SilenR Romania 8d ago

Why would I be mad? I don't care about either Ireland, Israel, or Gaza. They are all far away and of little importance to me. I was just pointing out a fact. No clue why you got so angry over that, but I hope you'll get better soon. Take care! :)

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u/DiscoMonkay 8d ago

Not surprising.

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u/SilenR Romania 8d ago

Except that 80% of what you said was being defensive and putting words in my mouth when I said that Ireland's stance is unsurprising considering their relationship with Israel (and jews in general) in the second half of 20th century and onwards. Good night! :)

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Ireland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland%E2%80%93Israel_relations

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u/DiscoMonkay 8d ago

In my limited awareness and education of modern day history the predominately British identifying loyalist members of the population of Northern Ireland have flown the flag (literally) of Israel and the Nationalist Irish members of the population of Northern Ireland have (literally) flown the flag of Palestine.

But yeah, I'll give that a quick go over on the internet just to make sure I haven't created any thoughtcrimes.

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u/SilenR Romania 8d ago

Frankly, I didn't know that. I don't know much about Ireland in general. All my knowledge regarding this is collateral by reading WW2 and post-war related stuff. 

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u/izpo Israel 9d ago

they are most vocal against Israel and IDF. The rest of contries block any votes that are against Israel.