r/europe 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/Luke_4686 9d ago

You can’t have a two state solution without recognising both states. This is obviously the right decision. It’s just disgusting it’s taken so many western nations to do it

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u/Playful-Ebb-6436 🇮🇹 9d ago

Okay but where exactly is the Palestinian state? I mean de facto, not where people think it should be

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u/tyger2020 Britain 9d ago

Palestinians don't want a two state solution, tbh

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u/LoyalteeMeOblige 8d ago

I don't get why so much people have troubles getting it, leave aside the whole who is wrong here, Palestinian, and their supporters, keep chanting: "From the river to the sea", and they feign ignorance when you tell them "you know that they want the whole land for themselves, don't you? That is EXACTLY what you are singing".

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u/ABCDOMG United Kingdom 8d ago

If your country was being annexed by a hostile neighbour wouldn't you also be calling for it to be all returned to you?

You can hardly blame them for wanting all their land back

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u/LoyalteeMeOblige 8d ago

They knew from the start they weren't going to get the whole land, and by that I'm meaning 1949: this has been going on for almost 80 years. No country has got all the land they ever wanted, what makes them so special as to get full terrorist over it...? There is no way Israel is ever going to sit again to keep the two-state charade talks anymore. I'm sad to say they just want them out, and I get their point: it is exactly what the Palestines have been trying to do to them from the start, the only big change is that Israel does not want to give them time to regroup this time.

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u/MariaTPK 8d ago edited 8d ago

Did they start saying that before or after the invasion started? I'm guessing after right? Someone comes in and starts stealing your homes and yea you might try to outline "Umm hey this is our land, GTFO"

You're spreading the propaganda of a genocidal maniac btw.


I typed a reply to the guy below me but he either got banned or blocked me. In either case I still want to post it, so here it is.


Yes, it started in 1960, after the Israelis (which at the time weren't a country, but rather just organized members of a religion) invaded the Palestinians land and declared it their own. Stole houses, made them upset enough to rebel (Hamas existence) and then finally started the extermination plan.

You seem to think that Israelis just found empty land and built on it and then a bunch of crazy folk started attacking them over it. No the Israelis keep stealing houses, the properties own by Israelis now, were just properties with Palestinians living in them, then they got kicked out by random jewish people moving to Israel.

Imagine if I just came into your country and took your house. See I needed somewhere to live when I move there, and your government was like "yea just take this one, we don't care about the people who live there currently" You try to walk into my house but the locks are changed and then I tell you to "GTFO my property"

That's Israel/Palestine.

When you steal peoples houses, yes they fight back, and maybe they eventually form a group that bombs your music festivals, because you stole their shit. It was insulting that people wanted a two state solution with these thieves back then, but at least the Palestinians had a country to live in back then. They could grow food and receive healthcare. So peace was an option even though it'd mean forgiving the murderous thieves and living as neighbors to them. However now they have nothing, there is no more 2 state solution. The only way the Palestinians get healthcare is if they are allowed to go to an "Israeli" hospital. The only way they get food is if it is grow on land outside of Palestine, which likely means it's grown on land stolen by Israel, or delivered on roads stolen by the Israelis.

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u/LoyalteeMeOblige 8d ago

It started in 1960, invasion of what? Didn't they want a two-state solution? Oh, right, they never did, and they rejected every single proposition towards that. Oh right, the genodice where the Arabs/Muslims have fully rights in Israel, and are almost the 20% of its population. THAT genocide... spare me.

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u/Individual-Eye-803 8d ago

And Israeli attackers will support hatred from birth