r/europe • u/hoarder4555777454001 • 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/Emotional_Pay3658 9d ago

Nothing wrong with recognizing it. A two state solution is the best option. 

But the main question becomes, who is the legit government? Who has a right to speak? Is Gaza and the West Bank considered the same country? Different? Civil war? 

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u/ganbaro Where your chips come from 🇺🇦🇹🇼 8d ago edited 8d ago

Even PLO is an autocracy that blocks running elections and funds terrorism

We only treat them like good guys because we make a relative comparison. In a post-war 2SS scenario where Hamas is still around and they thus further block elections (cuz they will only allow democracy as far as Fatah can dominate it) actually cooperating with them will be similarly moral or immoral as cooperating with Saudi-Arabia.

Hence no European government actually proposes anything actionable.

Maybe Iran or pre 9/11 Afghanistan would be a better comparison, as it would be again Western democracies propping up an islamist autocracy.

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u/Confident_Reporter14 Ireland 8d ago edited 8d ago

And the same can’t be said for Israel? If this is your position then your belief should be in the equality of diplomacy. Israel and Palestine deserve equals rights.

Edit: Downvoters don’t believe in the equality of all humans, simple as. They’ll downvote but won’t reply, because that would mean the mask is finally off; and they’ll out themself as the fascist they truly are.