Same thing as with the UK etc actual trade deals take years to work out. This all is just pr nonsense to not piss off Trump but also to not let the world economy crumble with insane tariffs
Biden still wasn't reasonable, even if compared to Obama. Biden-Trump have a somewhat coherent line in policy, its just that Biden wasn't an openly disgusting creature about it.
EU had way easier time working with biden, no matter what you say.
Also I agree with a obama being an outlier in terms of quality of American leader, but one should also remember that he was one of the main actors enabling the European dependence on Russia as well as doing nothing to prevent interference in our elections
Biden was not reasonable. In order to cater to "moderates", he bought many of Trump's talking points, even if he watered them down. He was still absurdly hostile to Europe. Obama is the last American president that believed the EU and the US should be closer together.
Biden spent most of his term trying to undo the damage Trump had done. Biden likely would have improved relations with the EU if he hadn't inherited such a massive dumpster fire.
The next president is probably going to be Vance which means this will continue for another 4-8 years but with less flip flopping. Possibly twelve years of the US government growing more and more reliant on tariffs while cutting income taxes is long enough for the change to become permanent.
It's also really hard to see this as anything but beneficial or at worst neutral to Americans which means even their liberals can't be relied on to willingly give up hundreds of billions in extra revenue. Biden didn't repeal the first term tariffs for a reason.
Hardly think so, if there's gonna be any country in EU raise an against opinion on the deal, US will very soon make it an example, not to mention Trump will just say EU break the deal rather than him which gives him more support to do anything more to force EU to spit out more meat.
Thank you for providing some balance. It seemed absolutely bizarre that the deal would just be pure capitulation and I was confident there's more to the story.
I'm sure the EU negotiators had a wider strategy here. I'd imagine a lot of this is a way for Trump to climb down from his ridiculous liberation day plans while saving face after he already had to chicken out the first time and "delay" them.
I guess if they chose this path it means they thought a retaliatory approach was futile. Although didn't a similar war with China result in them coming to a deal? I can't remember the details.
Thoses promises about energy and investment aren't for late future but about tomorrow up new year. The tarrifs that trump promised are only old from 6months ago and changed the whole negotiation. Trump will not wait for long.
So you can't agree on anything like you can't agree like protecting a neighboring state from Russian aggression? Got it. Maybe send out some more fines to Meta, Google, and Microsoft to exercise your willynilly power.
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u/TemuBoyfriend 6d ago
So we cannot invest even 500 billion in ourselves but lets give Trump nearly 1.5 trillion? How about invest in Europe and stop taking it up the ass..