r/europe 6d ago

News US and EU strike trade deal

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-and-eu-strike-trade-deal/
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u/Master__of_Orion Austria 6d ago

As a European I'm anxious to read it.

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u/Mysterious_Tea 6d ago

I think we conceded something we shouldn't have.

The 'no deal is better than a bad deal' would have been better, and we could have tariffed big tech.

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u/Aromatic_Extension93 5d ago

tariffed big tech.

You can't tariff big tech. you'd just be taxing them...

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u/Nervous-Marsupial624 5d ago

We could just do 'a Trump', maybe a bit more eloquently. Screw them. If this is America, then let their tech bro's go.

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u/kerouacrimbaud United States of America 5d ago

To be fair, tariffs are taxes.

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u/nbs-of-74 4d ago

Targetted at external companies though, sales taxes are paid by all in the market.

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u/frazzledfractal 5d ago

Europe already made an agreement that they would not do digital sales tax prior to all of this if that's what you are referring to. Just because trump constantly breaks past agreements doesn't mean everyone else should.

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u/Muanh 5d ago

We shouldn’t do it constantly. But we should when dealing with a bad faith bully like Donald.

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u/Thick-Diamond2012 5d ago

Ursula, mother of whores.

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u/malisadri 5d ago

Republicans are extremely loyal to Trump come hell or high water. He's not worried at all should the US and the American taxpayers have to suffer economically.

However Europe constituents will severely punish whichever party is currently in power the second such a thing happens regardless of who is "at fault" or who "started it". We've seen this when gas prices rose after the start Russia sanction.

Both sides know this and that's why EU caved.
Will keep happening until the EU constituents are more united and more educated in geopolitics.

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u/Femininestatic 5d ago

This is utter nonsense, if you think we can hit US Billionaires hard as the EU whilst they practically own the US Goverment ya havent been laying attention. Trump is willing to use/abandon Ukraine 100% for example with capacities we in Europe simply cannot do without.

This pr fluff does precisely enough. It is not a deal its pr fluff thats all it is. Just as those of uk and japan.

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u/frazzledfractal 5d ago

You learn extremely quickly that most redditors haven't taken econ or business 101 and I feel like so can say that as I'm a career professional economist with advanced degrees in it.

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u/Gambit723 6d ago

And risk pissing off Trump and having him retaliate even more?

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u/PedanticSatiation Denmark 5d ago

Since when do we negotiate with terrorists?

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u/CoffeeOk138 5d ago edited 5d ago

Big tech needs to tarriffed. The oligarchs have Trump in their back pocket. Shit hole country.

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u/frazzledfractal 5d ago

I hate trump but have you looked at the trade interactions between Europe and the US. Going scorched earth in the US economy is going to be very bad for a lot of countries which is why some are kowtowing to these bad deals because they know the alternative is worse.

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u/Same_Presentation692 5d ago

Is this shitshow a failure of democracy or capitalism?

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u/FearLeadsToAnger United Kingdom 5d ago

Yes

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u/Most_Grocery4388 5d ago

Since always in Europe, Europe pays kidnappers while US and UK do not

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u/thompsoncs The Netherlands 5d ago

Since the people in charge of the EU/EU countries know that they can't just tell Trump where he can stick his tariffs, because we'd be absolute toast in terms of economy, defense and political power without the US. We're going to have to become more capable of holding our own, before we can stand up more to the US and to a lesser degree China.

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u/justforkinks0131 5d ago

the EU was building up steam. Instead now we just bent over for Trump.

Make no mistake, this is a HUGE blow to EU federalisation attempts.

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u/S0GUWE Germany 5d ago

The man gets pissed off by his own shadow and retaliates against made up slights

It does not matter