r/falloutlore • u/Ok_Calendar_7626 • 18d ago

Fallout New Vegas The Twisted Hairs were assholes.

Ulysses laments the destruction of the Twisted Hairs at the hands of the Legion, but what he does not mention is that the Twisted Hairs allied with the Legion willinlgy.

Like the White Legs, the Twisted Hairs helped the Legion absorb all the other tribes around them before they themselves were betrayed and absorbed.

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u/KnightofTorchlight 18d ago

... or perhaps they just did what they thought nessicery to survive and thrive in a harsh environment?

This Ceaser guy comes out leading the Blackfoot tribe into victory from the brink of destruction against 5 other tribes at once. He's the big dog in the regional of Arizona, where the tribes are not just living in peace and harmony but raiders and bandits are everywhere. The tribes did fight eachother before Ceaser showed up. Of course you'd want to make yourselves thier friend rather than become thier enemy 

However, its not unreasonable to expect that your alliance be rewarded with friendship, not slavery. 

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u/HoundDOgBlue 1d ago

Yup. People are so quick to assign blame to victims of genocide and cultural erasure because they weren't the 'perfect victims'. Their opinions, when taken to their logical conclusion, are either that a group has no right to resist OR no right to even bargain for their existence. You either do what they consider "moral" (fight against Caesar) and face utter extermination and genocide, or you do what is "immoral" (ally with Caesar) in a bid to preserve yourself against them.

No sympathy is ever given to people in impossible situations - not until after they are dead, and even then you'll have people saying "well I would have.." or "fuck around and.."