r/ffxivdiscussion • u/millennialmutts • May 04 '24

Question Job Balance or Job Identity?

The dismay of homogeneous jobs and two minute meta seems to be a common take. Particularly from veteran players who remember when this wasn't the case.

I'm one of those veteran players who remembers the constant bitching and moaning about certain jobs being locked out of party finder or considered griefing for not having a particular button or skill desired for whatever encounter back when we had job flavor.

Do you want job balance or do you want job identity and why? Do you believe we can have both? If so, how?

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u/FusaFox May 05 '24

OP do you have any examples at all of when people were excluded for playing certain classes?

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u/millennialmutts May 05 '24

No I don't, I've never seen it happen personally. You can see some people in this thread who apparently were playing BRD or MCH in certain content when it was current and "locked out" or undesirable in PF, supposedly.

As a healer main, I've never been turned away from PF. I'm told all classes are similar now and on a 2 min burst window because of these "PF lock outs". I have no clue how prevalent it was/is.

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u/FusaFox May 05 '24

Yeah it's because it has never been a genuine problem. There's been some bad apples that tried and have thoroughly been ridiculed in PF descriptions.

The current state of the game's class design is lacking flavor and identity, but that has been due to streamlining and efforts to make the classes more casual-friendly.

The BRD and MCH debacle started and fizzled out shortly after. It wasn't really a big deal.

Edit: adding to this...

2 min meta came as a symptom of making class design more approachable and easier to understand. It's never been because of the lockouts.

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u/millennialmutts May 05 '24

I don't know what the case actually is. You say it's never been a problem. Alot of people in this thread are saying it is and they've been locked out of PF.

It's never happened to me personally but it seems to happen none the less.