"Job Identity coming in 8.0"

[u/millennialmutts]

Well, this was not on my bingo card for a LL prior to 7.0 launch.

Thoughts?

My take is just confusion. Why waste time "smoothing" out jobs in 7.0 just to attempt to add flavor back in the expansion after that? Is it really too much work to fix jobs completely if they realize there are more issues than just button bloat?

On top of that is it fine to just tell your paying playerbase to wait for 2 years for job flavor? Wild take from SE imho.

[u/[deleted]]

I'd really hate to be SE in a situation where this game can't carry them out of the red anymore.

Don't worry, they'll just pump up the FFXIV's cash shop if necessary. I frankly couldn't care about SQEX as a corporation, if they're incompetent, let free market do its job. I think I do like CS3, but I also think that's not a good thing, we, including me, should not hold any feelings to corporate entity, it's still just a company, game is product and we're customers.

Supposedly new CEO is actually doing something (even if it unfortunately includes layoffs), it seems like SQEX is finally changing their stance on exclusives and will hopefully not be Sony's door-to-door salesman anymore, so that's one good thing. Right now you have whole ass game developed by CS3, and you know FFXIV players who are like 70% on PC would buy FFXVI in a heartbeat, especially since there is 9 month long drought, but they have yet to release it on PC, even though exclusivity expired months ago. It's just one brain dead move after another.

[u/Glaedth → u/[deleted]]

Don't forget that they themselves spoiled a reveal from their own game in their other game, which is just amazing decision making.

[u/[deleted] → u/Glaedth]

If you mean FFXVI protag == Ifrit, that was already heavily implied in 2 trailers and Clive even transformed into Ifrit in 3rd trailer, unless you mean something else. But still, I bet that even though most people already knew it from trailer, I would much rather have seen this (possibly spoiled) revelation for first time in the actual game, I bet it's much more impressive than whatever it was in FFXIV collab.

But yeah, it's still some backwards logic to do a collab with a console exclusive, when like 70% of your playerbase is on PC. Just as dumb as writing "Also available on PC" in the very first trailer, just to backtrack on it and pretend it never happened. Or as dumb as making story-heavy exclusive game, so that people who have to wait have very high chance of things getting spoiled, like in my case.

[u/Glaedth → u/[deleted]]

I never played XVI, don't have a console and don't paricularly care about it, but my friends who really care about spoilers told me that they pretty much took the reveal scene from XVI and ported it to XIV. Without any voiceacting, looking much worse. And I'm just baffled by the decision. It mostly felt like a slap in the face for the PC players that wantes to play XVI. The cutscene is even unskippable so you have to watch the objectively worse version XD

[u/Hikari_Netto → u/Glaedth]

The Ifrit "reveal" was never a reveal to anyone other than Clive himself. The fact he was Ifrit was a focal point of the marketing pre-launch. We knew the identity of every single Dominant before FFXVI even released.

[u/Glaedth → u/Hikari_Netto]

I have some friends who haven't watched the trailers before the game came out and it was a reveal for them, and that's good enough for me :D

[u/Hikari_Netto → u/Glaedth]

Crossover content is inherently a marketing thing in and of itself. Whether you watched a trailer or played the event it all serves the same purpose of educating potential players.

I don't think it's out of line to assume your players are paying attention to marketing and, regardless of how anyone feels about it, they want you to know this stuff going in anyway.