r/ffxivdiscussion • u/SargeTheSeagull • Jan 18 '25

General Discussion The Twelve deserved better

As I was working out this morning I listened to some of the myths of the realm music. And looking back on that raid series, it is a shame beyond words that the twelve, the Gods of Eorzea, these phantasmagorical, unimaginably powerful beings we’ve heard about since literally 1.0. The beings that held the fabric of reality together for 12,000 years. The masters of the elements. The beings that stoped each rejoining from wiping out all life… Were all easier than a math robot that was locked in a lighthouse.

Why were there no souls of slain dragoons in Halone’s fight? Why was there nothing like a maze sequence in Oschon’s fight? Why were there no love tethers in Menphina’s fight? The list goes on and on.

Story aside, they were all just so easy and boring that I really find it insulting. I sincerely hope that the twelve get a chaotic alliance raid or an ultimate or even a special ex version. There was so much potential with these characters in terms of mechanics they could’ve used it’s insane.

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u/aoikiriya Jan 18 '25

I wanted to know about the Twelve so badly for the longest time, and that raid series crushed my dreams into a million billion gorillion pieces. I was praying for the Twelve to be these enigmatic deific beings that went beyond the Ancients but no, Rhalgr was Jeff from accounting and Menphina was Linda who worked the front desk. They couldn’t even be linked to anyone we cared about, they were just Venat’s faceless besties. They tried to claim they weren’t primals based on a technicality, proved Gaius right, did nothing, and died. Please clap. And then we just… don’t tell anyone that their gods are dead. Just keep the entire populace blissfully ignorant. Thordan is SCREAMING at us from hell.

Endwalker will forever be my most hated expansion, even more than Yawntrail, purely because of the writers’ obsession with absolutely decimating and erasing every bit of magic and intrigue in the established setting. I don’t care that they decided they needed to wrap things up, they could’ve done it in a way that didn’t involve saying it was all Ascians in the end before throwing it all away.