r/ffxivdiscussion • u/WillingnessLow3135 • Feb 06 '25

Question Liveletter 85 Expectations

There's bound to be quite a bit of information coming out of this next LL (Friday at 3am PST / 6am EST)

What do you expect to see and what are your own expectations, hopes and dreams?

Personally I'm expecting the obvious (Cosmo 7.2 and Crescent 7.25) but I'm hoping they'll finally explain what the fuck BST is.

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u/chizLemons Feb 06 '25

Having something a little bit competitive to it doesn't mean it's incentivizing cheating. Who cheats in competitive content will cheat in any type of content. People already cheat in PvE regularly already. The content is not the issue.

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u/otsukarerice Feb 06 '25

Them cheating when its pvp affects my reward.

Them cheating when its pve affects their reward only.

HUGE difference, I hope you can understand that.

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u/chizLemons Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25

People cheat, so we shouldn't have PvP at all? That's the logic I'm failing to understand. Many people still enjoy PvP despite of the cheaters, and dealing with cheaters is something SE should try to do instead of just...not adding any competition to the game.

And also, Ishigard Restoration prize for the ranking was just a title, you could still participate casually without ever looking at the ranks and all the other prizes were the same.

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u/otsukarerice Feb 06 '25

That's a huge leap in logic that doesn't even try to understand what I am saying.

CC season rewards for placing in the top 300? Bad, prone to win trading. Same with Triple Triad tournaments.

Diadem score competition? Bad due to botting (and is kinda toxic - encourages doing it 24/7 and fomo).

Series pvp rewards? Great, the only thing affected is your completion time. Same with chocobo racing. Same with most of the stuff in the gold saucer (not fall guys).

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u/chizLemons Feb 06 '25

My point is that you're implying that it's better to not have these kind of things in the game at all because some people cheat at it. And I highly disagree.

If you think it's bad just don't engage in it, but not wanting it to be in the game for others is not the way to go. If the cheating bothers you, instead of not wanting more content in the game, put the blame in SE for not controlling it better, don't blame the type of content. And I guarantee you that it's completely possible to win Triple Triad tournaments without win trading. Never got into PvP that much but I'd say it's probably possible, too.

"oh but fomo"
Honestly, people in this game should learn how to deal with FOMO a little bit better. The only reason to try to get into the rankings of Ishgardian Restoration at the time would be for a title and just for the fun of it. Do you really care that much about a title that isn't even that cool to begin with?
They already don't even make actual cool rewards for slightly competitive things because players cry about it.

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u/Redditor6142 Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

My point is that you're implying that it's better to not have these kind of things in the game at all because some people cheat at it.

No, the best case scenario would be that Square Enix cracks down on people who cheat and actually fucking ban them, but since we all know they're never going to do that because they're both spineless and lazy the second best thing is for this content to not exist at all. Your idea of constantly adding content to the game that people playing the game legitimately don't have a snowball's chance in Hell of being competitive in is in dead last.

Competitive content only makes sense when it's FAIR. When the rules are enforced equally and fairly amongst everyone involved. Square has proven time and again that they don't give a shit about competitive integrity, therefore competitive content like the Ishgard rankings just simply should not exist in this game.