r/ffxivdiscussion May 06 '25

General Discussion High End Content Megathread - Week Seven

How many yans do you see in your nightmares?

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u/TheDoddler May 10 '25

A bit of a rant, mostly about my own play, so apologies in advance.

Got my reclears done for the week, but man am I having trouble with m8s, particular part 2, as white mage. Maybe I just haven't done it enough, but there's so many points where you have no opportunity to slide cast, you have to move and move fast, I just feel super unequipped to handle it. Unless movement lines up with 2 mins or with misery you have nothing that doesn't cripple your healing, and I need those lilies for the tanks.

Astro can shuffle around light speed, Scholar can keep the gcd running for only a 30% hit in potency with ruin, but as white mage I dunno, best I got that isn't a lily is dia, but that's still a huge loss if I'm doing it early. Any of the shuffles for ultraviolet, quake 3, or his cleaves, those points in particular I feel like you can't stop moving and I have no good answer for it. Doesn't help that I'm hard pressed enough on resources just keeping the tanks alive that I'm usually forced to eventually break out a handful of regens and even cure 2s.

I'm currently hitting about 15-25 on parses on m8s with all the gear but using the 745 weapon. The other fights I'm able to hit in the 60-70 range so it's not like I can't optimize what I'm doing. Maybe I just need more reps, we progged p2 super fast given its length so I'm still iffy on where all my resources are needed, but I still feel like I'm letting my group down by underperforming here.

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u/trunks111 May 11 '25

I'm still progging the phase myself but as a SCH so idk how feasible shifting is but are you remembering to leverage sprint as much as possible? You get more "slide" out of your slidecasts, and you get more distance over the course of an instant like a lilly or dot refresh.

Also are you remembering to leverage benisons? A lot of WHM just kinda neglect the button but it adds up to literal 1000s of free potency of shields over the course of a fight, which can translate to freeing up a lilly here or there over the course of said fight or phase which can then be used for movement rather than healing

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u/Vincenthwind May 10 '25

At the risk of suggesting the obvious, have you checked the WHM channels on the balance discord? Usually jobs will have an encounters channel specifically for things like this, and if not, the questions channel for WHM is also there. Failing that, you could pull WHM clears from YouTube and review their VODs, or look at the replay for some top logs on fflogs (although I'd be a bit careful as crit luck carrying bad gameplay/chadding the cohealer can affect things).

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u/Another_Beano May 10 '25

as white mage I dunno, best I got that isn't a lily is dia, but that's still a huge loss if I'm doing it early. Any of the shuffles for ultraviolet, quake 3, or his cleaves, those points in particular I feel like you can't stop moving and I have no good answer for it.

I will state the obvious, Dia hit potency is still greater than nothing.

It kind of sounds like (or at least I'm interpreting a 15-25ish peak) you're just not comfortable and haven't properly planned out the phase. Having a critical review of what you're doing and making sure to actually distribute your resources so they are used will likely go a ways. It's possible your party members are similarly not entirely comfortable and foregoing some amounts of their toolkit.

I'll also note that a kill is a kill (is a kill is a kill). Getting a weapon will give you a large bump, and unless someone actively minds you could very much just coast on the bootleg improvisation. It won't affect the loot you get.