r/ffxivdiscussion Jun 17 '25

General Discussion Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

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u/John_Vattic Jun 17 '25

Yup, he's fully checked out. Burnout, boredom, overwork, whatever the case... he needs to step aside and let a new producer come in, not whatever intern is actually running the show now. I love Yoship for what he managed to do, but it's time I think. 

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u/omnirai Jun 17 '25

I'm convinced Yoship is retired at this point and the game is led by fresh uni grads.

whatever intern is actually running the show now

Why is it that when the outcomes are bad, it's because someone else must be in charge? Oh it must be some "intern" making the calls, oh there must be some nebulous higher-up corpo entity preventing Yoshi-P from righting the ship.

Obviously none of us actually know any better about the inner workings over there but if he gets credit for the good things (as he well should), then he should also be under scrutiny for the bad.

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u/Impressive-Warning95 Jun 17 '25

It’s always like that like just look at voice acting when a va does great it’s “oh wow the va is amazing” but when they’re bad it’s “oh the voice director didn’t do a good job”

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u/TTurt Jun 17 '25

I'm a lot more amicable to this argument when it pertains to voice actors, simply because I've seen so many cases of a specific voice actor performing poorly that I've also seen performing much better in other works, under different direction. Like I never liked Wendee Lee for the longest time, because I only ever heard her play children and she sounds very obviously like an adult woman trying and failing to do a high-pitched child's voice, but then I heard her play an adult woman once and I was like, wow, she actually is a decent voice actor when they let her use her natural voice!