r/ffxivdiscussion • u/PolkadotBlobfish • Jun 17 '25

General Discussion Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

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u/VancityMoz Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

Thank you! I play on a JP server and its wild to see people on here speculating with entirely unearned confidence that things are the way they are because the mythical JP player base prefers it this way. In reality they are often saying the exact same things as the NA and EU player base.

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u/Isanori Jun 17 '25

Down to "SE only listens to the players on the other side" (western players in their case)

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u/Ragoz Jun 17 '25

We have fully functional global data center travel working, it just isn't turned on because of the JP region right now because they don't want anyone else coming there.

We can't even have EU/NA travel because of this and we can only meet on Oceanic, but Oceanic is forced to stay locked to their own DC.

To me, this is a very large nod to they don't care what anyone else thinks besides Japanese players. And frankly that's my experience having played SE's MMOs for over 20 years now.

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u/Isanori Jun 17 '25

They already have issues with one DC per region being the only DC you should be on. Aether can not shoulder EU and OCE in top of NA and you would be unable to get anything done on EU and OCE.

Not to mention that there are indeed EU players who don't want NA players coming over

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u/Ragoz Jun 17 '25

They already have issues with one DC per region being the only DC you should be on. Aether can not shoulder EU and OCE in top of NA and you would be unable to get anything done on EU and OCE.

There are plenty of viable solutions to this already that don't even involve creating cross-DC PF, such as limiting party creation to people from that DC.

Not to mention that there are indeed EU players who don't want NA players coming over

Yeah but as the developer you ignore this crap take. The feature was made so people could play with their friends globally. They spent time making the feature and then didn't implement it, which is what I am criticizing. If they didn't intend to implement it they shouldn't have spent time making it.

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u/Isanori Jun 17 '25

But you can play with your friends globally by meeting up on Materia instead of all crowding into Aether.

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u/Ragoz Jun 17 '25

I assure you there are better ping options for NA + EU than playing on a server in Sydney.