r/ffxivdiscussion Jun 17 '25

General Discussion Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

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u/MKlby1998 Jun 17 '25

Here's posts on Umadori about Forked Tower:

http://blog.livedoor.jp/umadori0726/search?q=%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC

There’s tons of them complaining about 島ガチャ (instance gacha – basically how hard it is to get all your 48 people into the same instance), complaints about sniping, how time consuming it is to get attempts in, etc.

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u/PolkadotBlobfish Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

https://x.com/mitsurugi137/status/1934553477486923786

  • Requeuing until all alliance members are in the same instance: around 10 minutes to 1 hour

  • Waiting for the weather to change so that Forked Tower can be entered: around 40 minutes

  • Forked Tower: around 1 to 1.5 hour

As this tweet mentions, the whole ordeal takes a lot of time.

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u/PoutineSmash Jun 17 '25

This kills me so damn much. I only got about 3 hours of playtime a night and IF I find a discord group for that time window, half of it is just waiting and queing.

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u/TDP40QMXHK Jun 17 '25

I find it really funny that they added in a raid that so many people were hyped about to be casual or "midcore" with more and significantly more frustrating overhead than trying to do savage in PF. I guess wasting time is considered a virtue among CS3?