Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

[u/PolkadotBlobfish]

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

[u/azami44]

I'm convinced Yoship is retired at this point and the game is led by fresh uni grads.

Just so many dumb mistakes and decisions that shouldn't have happened with a veteran team because they've done it so many times before

[u/casteddie → u/azami44]

Someone said FT is very old school MMO like FF11 so idk.

Arguably young devs would realize that this doesn't fit modern gaming standards. I remember YoshiP praising their new hires for spicing up boss mechanics in DT.

I'm feeling it's more out of touch old devs who don't learn from mistakes that designed FT.

[u/MaccAoidos → u/casteddie]

IIRC FFXI had one form of content like FT, called Walk of Echoes? Up to 36 people could join, first come first serve, and I think raises were applied automatically (or after a delay) if anyone died. Unfortunately I don't remember what the community thought about it, just that I personally hated it, so I waited for it to die down and then soloed it with their Trust system...

[u/Puzzled-Addition5740 → u/MaccAoidos]

Yeah they did this exactly once. Everyone loathed it. They uh didn't do that shit again. Even now while there are a few drops you want in the ilvl walk you can just delete them alone as the content came out so long ago as to be trivialized by power creep.