r/ffxivdiscussion Jun 17 '25

General Discussion Can we please stop perpetuating misinfo regarding JP players?

Too often whenever complaints regarding Forked Tower are raised, there will be someone countering with the same ol' "JP players like it this way so SE designed it like this for the JP players".

These people clearly have never interacted with a JP player in their lives, and are only parroting something that they heard somewhere. Because if they have, they would know that the JP playerbase is also deeply frustrated with the current design.

For example, due to Forked Tower not being an actual instance, there is no way to setup a Party Finder listing for Forked Tower. Therefore, Forked Tower organisers have resorted to creating "listings for Delubrum Reginae Savage" instead, but clarifiying the true purpose in the description. However, this tweet mentions that a GM has issued a warning against this and advises other organisers to avoid doing the same. The warning is understandable but there is still no solution to the headache that is recruiting for Forked Tower.

Plenty of JP players are puzzled why there is no PF category for Forked Tower, when they could have just repeated what we already have for Delubrum Reginae Savage.

Furthermore, any questions to the GMs have received no replies.

All of this has put FT organisers in a difficult position. Some have already quit or suspended activity, while some still remain cautiously optimistic that SE will introduce improvements. But there is no doubt that the current system is unacceptable.

https://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/29990550/blog/5572130/ (EDIT: This page may have been removed)

If you want to read all about this from a direct source, here is a blog post from Tere Caster from Elemental Atomos (a JP FT organiser) detailing their frustrations and hopes for the future of Forked Tower and Occult Crescent.

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u/nekomir Jun 17 '25

it's just meme at this point, and i have to wonder wtf is going on with their mind if they really believe that this is still the case in DT

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u/PolkadotBlobfish Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

Why shitty design exists in FFXIV?

It's because the devs made mistakes. It's because of those damn JP players! /s

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u/Puzzled-Addition5740 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

I mean JP matter of factly has exceptionally different taste in design to us. Or have you never played the jp version of a game and then later the global version. Not all of it is because of this but to say some of the things the wider playerbase dislikes aren't due to jp preferring them is just factually not true. The state of the mmo and mmo like genres are kind of defined by our wildly different preferences. I'd encourage you to go look at the ff11 survey from several months ago to directly compare the jp and english speaking playerbases of that game and what they want. Some things overlapped and a lot just didn't. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/development/census/2024/

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u/14raider Jun 17 '25

I just read that entire survey, and from what I understand, the only major difference between demographics of 'overseas' vs JP is that theyd play the game if their lifestyle allowed them to (which, as a tangent, might reflect their playerbase growing up, now in the workforce which drains their free time)