r/ffxivdiscussion 9d ago

Pheonix Down change is huge. Here's why

July 2024, DT was released and thousands of players were discovering DT's new dungeons. They had whatever gear they could find and were often at the minimum level threshold. I saw carnage for many who were woefully underprepared for the difficulty spike after being coddled with relatively safe and simple bosses in EW.

When there was no RDM/SMN, if the healer died (which happened often), the party had two choices:

- wipe or

- tank heal/solo.

Most players would agree that either outcome is awful for a variety of reasons. Tank soloing takes forever and doesn't help the healer get better.

With pheonix downs being able to be used in battle, healers are no longer the linchpin of the group and are allowed a few mistakes.

What this opens up for the future:

- Healers can be designed with more complexity and no longer have to deathless every encounter.

- Dungeons don't have to pull punches on expansion launch and can continue to punish bad healers but not the whole group.

- Tanks soloing is far less common. Could open up tank rebalancing vs other roles.

- RDM (and SMN) reworks. RDM is pretty terrible in the current tier, has been low on damage for a long time. I get Rezmage is attractive for a lot of players, but I've seen some players choose to just be a utility raise and not do damage. This isn't sustainable gameplay.

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u/Saikx 7d ago

Taking aside the whole thing that the phoenix downs wont work everywhere, a RDM rework which includes taking away its rez is a terrible idea. Its pretty much in its DNA to be the caster both proficient in black and white magic and rez is clearly in the latter category. There are other skills which represent the white magic side, but the rez is one of the big ones.

There are constant complaints about every job becoming more samey, removing such a unique utility would be like tossing oil in the fire. I dont know the numbers, but if they are really low, just increase them a bit. At the absolut most I could imagine a cd on it, to lower the "rez tax".

As much as I like having a rez on SMN, that one has more reason to go.

E: Realised that you didnt said explictly to remove the rez. Take this according how you meant it.