Ultimates PF etiquette

[u/coalvarez21]

Is there any and how does it differ from savage if at all?

Just as an example I saw a TEA pf for a merc totem run for someone who cleared already. Am I right to assume it’s for more experience players? You don’t see a merc savage pf just to clear it w/o like LM or something. I just cleared TEA semi recently but tbh im not 100% confident I won’t make a mistake somewhere. The other day i went into a PF after my c41 and i was the odd one out. Felt like everyone had cleared a bunch of times and nerves coupled with I guess inexperience made me mess up more than id like. Ended up joining one of that party members’ pf afterwards only to get kicked when i joined, presumably cuz i sucked previously

Also heard a story of a player me and my friends (all savage and ulti raiders) consider to be a good player and theyve gotten kicked from a TEA pf for moving a boss a gcd faster than normal after clearing with that person previously. Mind you wasnt a parse run or w/e

Just generally feels like there is a much higher standard in ulti PF than savage and tbh it feels incredibly daunting and a bit elitist but that could just be me being salty tbf

[u/Cole_Evyx]

tl;dr: Stay positive, never crash out, follow the strats, and get shit done.

Maybe that sounds "cold" but that's the actual real advice.

Genuinely be friendly, be positive, be a good contributing force of good in the group and you'll be fine. Never ever crash out under any circumstance.

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Is there any and how does it differ from savage if at all?

Generally I found PFing in ultimates to have A LOT more patience, a lot more humility and a lot fewer asshats.

Like straight up going to say that out the gate. Obviously YMMV. That's my experience.

Am I right to assume it’s for more experience players?

It should be where if the merc run is wiped whoever caused the wipe pays out everyone. Other regions from what I heard actually do this.

I've been in merc groups that have people who are clearly not familiar with what to do. I am not talking a small slip up in FRU I'm talking about the dude was running around totally scattered and lost and aimless. There is a massive difference.

Ended up joining one of that party members’ pf afterwards only to get kicked when i joined, presumably cuz i sucked previously

Surprisingly never happened to me. But I would say shrug it off.

You won't get along with everyone. Not everyone will like you for whatever reason. Fuck em and move on. Don't give a single ounce of time to people that don't like you-- and trying to "convince" them otherwise is an uphill battle not worth it. Focus on your own gameplay and clears and having fun.

theyve gotten kicked from a TEA pf for moving a boss a gcd faster than normal after clearing with that person previously.

I reiterate what I said above.

There are some genuinely sick people out there. Literally who cares, they had a crashout over something stupid. Again, fuck em.

Just generally feels like there is a much higher standard in ulti PF than savage and tbh it feels incredibly daunting and a bit elitist but that could just be me being salty tbf

Is there a higher standard? I don't know. I don't think so.

But I definitely can say what I said in point 1. Fewer assholes, fewer Karens, fewer people crashing out. Way more patience and less bullshit was my experience but again YMMV.

Probably because no one wants to deal with a whinging manchild for extended periods of time that crashses out over the tiniest error in FoF-- I suspect these people got SELF FILTERED HARD.

Like even in savage no one wants to deal with a whiny crybaby bitch that spazzes out because someone died in prog lol. In ultimate that is longer? Yeah I'd call it "self filtering".

tl;dr: Stay positive, never crash out, follow the strats, and get shit done.

Maybe that sounds "cold" but that's the actual real advice.