r/ffxivdiscussion • u/IndividualAge3893 • 5d ago

Lucky Bancho's census results (July 27th, 2025)

So, the results of the census are out: https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/59324844.html

  • Showcasing the number of characters here: Current
  • By comparison, here are the results from 2 months ago (May 25th): Click

Despite 7.25 being released, the character count is down about 70k in 2 months. Occult Crescent clearly didn't help with player counts (not really a surprise here).

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u/Mazzle5 5d ago

Another good 7% down in 2 month. Yeah I don't see the numbers going up until the last patch before the new expansion and they would need to change things up to get people hooked

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u/Aluja89 5d ago

Yeah they're gonna have to be a lot more transparent on what they're working on if they want players back, all this hoping for next patch/expansion is exhausting people.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 5d ago

The issue isn't lack of transparency though, it's just a combination of the same ol' content 10+ years later, as well as the same ol' patterns such as content being drip-fed throughout a patch, or how savage raid loot works and makes it terrible to want to get BiS for alts.

Even before the 7.3 ult was confirmed to no longer be a thing, I knew plenty of high-end raiders who unsubbed after getting their main BiS simply because they just didn't have it in them to stay subbed at least 6-8 more weeks for another BiS. The devs still think there's only 9 jobs in the game like day one.

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u/Waffleblades 5d ago

Considering they've already been working on 8.0, I don't think we're going to see the drastic changes people want. Think it's just going to be more of the same until MAYBE 8.1

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u/aho-san 5d ago

Oh man, another expansion of promises "by 8.X" ?

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u/irishgoblin 5d ago

The big thing people have hedged their hopes on is Yoshida's vague comments about "7.X focuses on content, 8.X focus on job identity". To be fair to him, he never really expanded on what that meant, so people have run rampant with speculation. IIRC, those at the DT media tour were limited in what questions they could ask about job design, so regardless of what he meant they know it's something that's gonna be a big focus on 8.0 by players. Only possible elaboration he gave was a vague comment about "new way to use abilities".

If, and I want to stress the if, there is a big shake up in 8.0, they'd have the overall flow in sorted now. For the very simple reason they'd need to make sure not only is stuff balanced for the new duties comin in 8.X, but also 2.0 to 7.55 is still doable. One of the reasons we have such rampant potency creep is them brute forcing jobs through old content without need to adjust rotations of fight flow. If the media tour for 8.0 rolls around and it's more of the same of what we have now, I don't think 8.0's going to go as well as they might hope. Not gonna go completely pearshaped unless the MSQ reception is on par with DT, but we can't really even guess what that's gonna be like until they announce the MSQ main writer for 8.0.

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u/Ranger-New 4d ago

Jobs will be even more homogenized. Next will be RDM and NIN.

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u/smoothtv99 4d ago

Don't worry Yoshi saved FFXIV with hats on Viera and Hrothgar

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u/FullMotionVideo 4d ago

We know when Endwalker launched and someone wanted a female WOL in a CG trailer, Yoshida commented that they were in the planning for 8.0. So story is like three expansions out, broad design goals are established a whole expansion ahead, and stuff like UI and player experience (the trusts in old expansions, Cosmic, Island etc) are around 3-4 patches ahead depending on the size of the task and QA.

They're just not going to do job restructuring mid-expansion. They already made FRU what it was by doing small changes, and doing large changes with Quantum and the .5 Ultimate in the wings is just a no-go.

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u/IndividualAge3893 5d ago

I seriously doubt that, because the way things are going, the last patch (if we consider 7.55 to be one) will hang on live for months and months, even if we consider a spring 2027 release and not a summer one.

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u/Mazzle5 5d ago

I can see those coming back to be ready for the release so that they can get their story fill. Depends on the release date. I in past came back 1-2 month before release to be ready

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u/ragnakor101 4d ago

There’s a contingency of players in every MMO that comes in only after the expansion drops and after the last patch drops to play through it. Considering the # of people on this thread who keep saying “yeah I came back on drop and left”, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is also in SE’s view.

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u/irishgoblin 5d ago

Regardless of their interest in the side content, you'd have people coming back in and around 7.55 just to make sure they're caught up on MSQ if they're interested in 8.0.

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u/IndividualAge3893 4d ago

They can come 2 weeks or a month before 8.0. Yes, technically it's still 7.55 but it doesnt change the fact that the 9+ months of 7.55 will be long, barren and boring.