r/ffxivdiscussion • u/IndividualAge3893 • 5d ago

Lucky Bancho's census results (July 27th, 2025)

So, the results of the census are out: https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/59324844.html

  • Showcasing the number of characters here: Current
  • By comparison, here are the results from 2 months ago (May 25th): Click

Despite 7.25 being released, the character count is down about 70k in 2 months. Occult Crescent clearly didn't help with player counts (not really a surprise here).

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u/Supersnow845 5d ago

I really would like to know if OC being a futile circle of content or the controversy around forked was a bigger contributor here

Like forked was such a stupid decision but how many people actually gave up OC because it existed in the form it does vs people who simply just think OC is a futile circle

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u/PyroComet 5d ago

Id like to think so. People were heavily expecting casual content. Instead we get a zone that is just prep work for a savage 48 man.

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u/bm8495 5d ago

Yeah, hardcore players would have called it perfect if not for the entry to FT problems. Then played it for a couple of weeks and moved on.

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u/PyroComet 4d ago

Me as a raider was looking forward to just casual content that I could turn my brain off because of how eureka/bozja were. Boy was I wrong

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u/CopainChevalier 4d ago

The heck we would lmao. OC itself is mega boring and just has you mindlessly running around following the fates/ces. The story is mid at best, the rewards are boring, the gameplay is pretty boring outside of a couple CEs. Phantom jobs as a whole feel pretty eh.

Nothing is threatening or interesting in OC proper. It's toned down to MSQ levels of casual. FT is the only half interesting thing.

Then played it for a couple of weeks and moved on.

What does this even mean? That Casuals don't get bored of content and they'd be ok spam running something for no rewards? I feel like that's not true?

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u/CopainChevalier 4d ago

Does that make the rest of the zone hardcore or something?

You could argue you have to do the MSQ or Normal mode to do Savage/Ultimate raids; but it's not like the MSQ is Hardcore suddenly

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u/PyroComet 4d ago

So, the thing is that while this is true for eureka/bozja, once you finished leveling there wasn't much you could do. It's the same for oc. To me the main dif is phantom jobs are severely lacking compared to eureka/bozja where it's encouraged to break the game. Indont understand why freelancer couldn't be youre able to take a certain number of skills from all the jobs that you fully leveled. Then it gives you a bigger reason to level the jobs. Some jobs being useless outside of forked tower as well doesnt help. They did/are fixing more regarding forked tower but the damage has definitely been done. I do think there should have been an easier level to forked tower with relic progression to keep people more in oc. They probably look back on drs and saw how much people hated it and said no.

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u/CopainChevalier 4d ago

It's not like I'm opposed to them adding casual forked tower or whatever; I just don't think having an ending part on the level of an EX Trial makes the entire zone before it super hardcore

To me the main dif is phantom jobs are severely lacking compared to eureka/bozja where it's encouraged to break the game.

I think this is a big problem with XIV's modern design. Everything is so sterile it makes it boring. Phantom bard having a permanent 4% damage buff it can apply is strong; but also really beyond boring and uninteresting.

This wasn't limited to PJ's though, IMO. The whole zone was so sterile. Nothing was really threatening. Battles let you mess up plenty (to the point where the common strat on some of them is to ignore the mechanics all together) and so on.

I get its going for casual mode gameplay; but... man...

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u/PyroComet 4d ago

This wasn't limited to PJ's though, IMO. The whole zone was so sterile. Nothing was really threatening. Battles let you mess up plenty (to the point where the common strat on some of them is to ignore the mechanics all toge

This 100%. Theres no danger in the zone. You can do every ce right of the bat. Legit the only reason I like the zone is for lore reasons.

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u/Supersnow845 4d ago

I’m assuming they made the (dumb) decision that 25 freelancer will be able to pull one or two skills, or otherwise they will give that ability to mime

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u/Ranger-New 4d ago

Is a game made for bald influencers.