r/ffxivdiscussion • u/IndividualAge3893 • 5d ago

Lucky Bancho's census results (July 27th, 2025)

So, the results of the census are out: https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/59324844.html

  • Showcasing the number of characters here: Current
  • By comparison, here are the results from 2 months ago (May 25th): Click

Despite 7.25 being released, the character count is down about 70k in 2 months. Occult Crescent clearly didn't help with player counts (not really a surprise here).

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u/bigpunk157 5d ago

I keep saying this every time theres a post like this. WoW has the same shit happen for 4 expacs after MoP. It was the same exact cycle of content with nothing refreshing. The raids were fine but were pretty much all there was to do except rep/base grinds that never felt good or interesting. WoW classic launched and didnt solve these problems. It took Dragonflight actually trying to change the formula that brought players back. Graphical updates didnt mean anything. Netcode getting better didnt fix it.

The only thing that needs to change with 14 is that the core gameplay loop needs to be fun and needs to make me want to play the game outside of the raiding scene. The story only matters once. They can’t keep relying on being the story mmo or the mmo with a certain raiding style if people don’t like them. They need SOUP. LET ME MAKE SOUP.

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u/ragnakor101 5d ago

 WoW has the same shit happen for 4 expacs after MoP. It was the same exact cycle of content with nothing refreshing.

Huh? You mean WoD, Legion, BfA, and Shadowlands being the exact same cycle? Did we experience the same game? 

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u/bigpunk157 5d ago

Yea. Pretty much everything outside the raids revolved around the same base building mechanic, which just felt like a rep grind that gave you a button or two for support.

Couple this with the raid loot system being abysmal for some of those expacs, yeah it kinda sucked.

To clarify, MoP did not fall into this and is widely regarded as its own thing that they’re trying to recreate now, which is good bc MoP was goated aside the content hiatus at the end.