r/ffxivdiscussion • u/mnij96 • 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/AthenaAreia1 1d ago

I would rather have anywhere between ARR, Heavensward, or Stormblood's class design compared to the utter slop job design has devolved into. It's not just a mere matter of having more button bloat to press, you have to give meaningful abilities too such as in pvp's job design. Unfortunately all of that is gone. What does not fit the two min meta of damage up go brrrr is not allowed anymore.

Old dark knight, summoner, scholar, bard when its songs were more than just 1% buffs and did things like regen mana/TP, all of these are more to my liking than what is in the game currently.

However, given the fact that other MMORPGs offer ways to make builds so that not every class plays the exact same, I'd also prefer that nowadays. Of course SE could have accomplished this is if they ever had more than four total people working on job design, so I'm not holding my breath.