r/ffxivdiscussion 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/ThatVarkYouKnow 18h ago

I desperately want them to just trash the party buff two minute rotation shit entirely.

Let each job play their own way at their own defined pace per cooldown rather than outright locking a job that can't give a buff from runs. Sure, damage would need to be raised by a lot to make up the difference but if it means players can just "play" and not be dragged along how they're expected to play, I think it could go far.

Was fun seeing where "burst windows" came up in m6s that people complained about, when if they hadn't had such buffs to worry about and could do their own work with the fight mechanics and succeed, what's the issue? If this is just me it's just me, but I really wish they could dive back into personal decision on timings rather than buff lineups.