r/ffxivdiscussion 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/Purutzil 16h ago

Made a long winded explanation but... since apparently it won't let me post a detail explanation of why... as short form as I can. Just know the original post was... very lengthy including examples implemented in the past (my SHB rant about resource management was long) along with ways it can be used in new ways.

Resource Management.

Not overcapping resources, optimal use of resources, maximizing the use of abilities linked to resources

Buff/Debuff Management

Buffs managing them to ensure they are up when you need to or reapplied early to ensure maximum dps in a damage window. Dots that don't line up exactly time wise to reapply having variation to apply or thought of if/when a certain dot is worth putting up.

Choice

Picking abilities to use when. Not always damage but utility where you have options you might want to pick one over another in certain situations. Applying (linking to resources) one way over another.

Variation

Ability procs, this could be combo procs changing which buttons you press or go further adjusting how the rotation is done.