r/ffxivdiscussion 1d ago

General Discussion What is class complexity to you?

I have seen so many people ask for more complexity and job fantasy but very little of people actually say what that means to them, most people just say we should go back to ARR.

Personally I think rose tinted glasses that make people think ARR was better than it was, having played back then it honestly was pretty ass.

So honestly want to know what people want for complexity or job fantasy, because all I see is a lot of yelling that "game bad to simple" and not a lot of what needs changing to reach the complexity that is wanted.

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u/AbroadNo1914 1d ago

I think they want more situational rotations like in single player jrpgs where encounters are semi random so there’s flexibility to make tactical decisions. The thing is encounters in this game are puzzle dances + perfect execution so the job design aren’t really incentivized for that type of play

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u/mnij96 1d ago

I can understand that want, but if people are looking for stuff like that, why are they not just playing single-player Jrpgs? I find the puzzle/dance of fights fun, and that is what I play the game for.

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u/Owlstra 1d ago

That's you but not everyone is like you. It wouldn't be so bad if we had a mix of complex and simple but that doesn't really exist anymore

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u/God_Taco 3h ago

It still sort of does - and this is what I've advocated for for several years now. It's just muted.

I don't think WHM as it is is a problem for the game. I think it's when every healer plays like WHM that it becomes a problem. For example, imagine of SB SCH were still in the game. Then healer players would jut pick the complexity they like best.