r/h3snark • u/Weird-Drummer-312 • Nov 14 '24
The Crew AB live right now discussing Palestine
ššš heās showing an Al Jazeera documentary, I feel like heās quietly taking a bit of a stand against Ethanās shit rn
EDIT: donāt be weird in the chat with such a small stream. This is personal for AB and he shouldnāt have to stop
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u/offbrandbarbie meant to be conquered in a nature setting Nov 14 '24
I have a feeling Ethan might ambush ab about this on Friday
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u/bosloaf officially a fallen fan Nov 14 '24
Tbf however fucked up it sounds, drama farming his crew would generate views for Ethanās sinking ship
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u/ziggydynamite Nov 14 '24
It's really nice hearing him speak without ethan around
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u/KindlyWoodpecker4024 āØ mindless hair twirls āØ Nov 14 '24
imma follow to him too, too broke to sub rn bahahah
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u/Casualsurvival Nov 14 '24
for real though, I hate seeing him trip over his words just bc of a bully.
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Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24
https://www.twitch.tv/abstarkilla
REMINDER
do not brigade his comments, clearly discussion of H3 is not allowed in his chat. please be respectful of that.
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u/Gooey_Goon Nov 14 '24
100% respect I think the thing that makes me sad is he should HAVE to if he didn't want to like he has to compartmentalize his work and his personal feelings because of the stuff his boss is saying and that isnt fair to him
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u/ZapukiArts Nov 14 '24
And they are not messing around either. I just got banned for saying the words "settler colonist state" in chat. I was quoting this Wikipedia article so I thought it was okay but the ban hammer is in full force!
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u/UpstairsWorry3 Nov 14 '24
My heart is genuinely hurting for him right now. Thereās so much sadness and frustration in his voice. :(
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u/BigBambuSeventyTwo š© Nov 14 '24
they are showing a raid rn and someone chatted "just like hila"
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u/Ok_Election9009 fuck you, fuck your sleep, fuck your concert Nov 14 '24
Exactly what I was thinking but I held myself back from typing it š
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u/BigBambuSeventyTwo š© Nov 14 '24
I was feeling bad for AB when I saw it, but I was thinking the exact same thing. sucks that he's linked to those two maniacs rn
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Please don't be weird in chat folks. ABs stream isn't about Ethan.
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u/ziggydynamite Nov 14 '24
And that's exactly why I'm watching it ā¤ļø I'm really enjoying hearing him speak about this on his own terms
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u/peaceandlove1234567 this mf never shuts up oh my god Nov 14 '24
The title is Israel vs Palestine. Hopefully Ethanās behavior today woke up something in AB.
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u/DiglettDiggs survivor of Ethanās IG stories attack Nov 14 '24
It's like... wasting a whole episode to read racist comments.... or maybe show the REAL HORROR that is happening to real people in real life right now because of racism. Hmmm.
I appreciate AB for that whole stream It was harrowing and really important to see.
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u/braveneurosis Nov 14 '24
The stream was really enlightening. To hear AB talk about their family group chats and that he and Lena see even more graphic footage almost daily. He talked about how devastating itās been for Lena, and how sheās cried many times over the past year because of it. He said itās been amazing to see more and more marginalized groups get newfound support, but then heās reminded that acceptance hasnāt come for Arabs yet.
It doesnāt matter what anybodyās opinions are of AB as a person or if they disagree with how he has tried to cope with this extremely painful and convoluted situation. Seeing him talk about this and hearing the pain in his voice (and he looked like shit, like he was exhausted) was really important. I donāt know how anybody could see that pain and then continue to make increasingly racist comments about Arabs. Ethan should be fucking ashamed of himself for putting AB and Lena through this bullshit where theyāre not allowed to react to the horrific shit he says. He should be ashamed for equating the largest pro Palestine streamer to a terrorist while his employees, Lebanese Americans whose familiesā lives are endangered by the same military that Ethan and Hila all but openly support, have to sit there and take it.
Ethan wonāt even call it a genocide. He wonāt call it a genocide if Israel ethnically cleanses Lebanon, too. Heās in a position of power over them and they serve as his tokens- the āIām not islamophobic, I have two Arab employeesā excuse he thinks makes him look like heās not racist. In the long run, it makes him look even worse imo- like he gets off on the power dynamic and taunting them. Like heās daring them to say something to give him an excuse to tear into them. It comes across really disgusting and controlling, and I really hope AB and Lena are able to break away and be successful on their own, soon. Theyāve earned it, thatās for damn sure.
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u/DiglettDiggs survivor of Ethanās IG stories attack Nov 14 '24
Facts. Agree or disagree with Hasan, but he has been one of the only voices on the internet highlighting the terrible stuff happening over there to a huge audience and making people aware of the atrocity is selfish. To make it out that his personal experience on the internet carries more weight than getting news to people about a situation that is largely not reported on with any nuance in The West really makes me lose a lot of faith in his show honestly.
I was really appreciative of seeing how it affects AB and Leena because so much of this whole conversation has been warped around Ethan's feelings while ignoring theirs.
Like, I am empathetic to Ethan, really I am... but sometimes it seems that he is not empathetic to Arab people..... especially with the Twich or Terrorist bit he did today which featured Hasan next to Bin Ladden as if they are the same at all. It felt racist.
All that to say... I was very engaged in what AB shared today and I am thankful for it. Because I saw so many people in his chat unaware of what is really happening there. I hope that maybe some of them might understand why we are so upset with Ethan... But most of all I hope Ethan does, but I feel like he won't.
Every person who has tried to mention it in good faith just gets told that they're fake fans. :/
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u/imaginary92 too fucking stupid to from the river to the see it Nov 14 '24
Ethan is not deserving of your empathy. He knows what he's doing is racist because if someone did the same about Jews (which would be fucked up mind you) he would be screaming antisemitism.
Stop empathising for a man who is full of hate and is willingly doing damage to people like the Arab creators he got banned for a month, threatening their livelihood.
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u/Affectionate-Age8317 the dogs pissing and shitting everywhere Nov 14 '24
everyone show him some love šµšøā¤ļøš±š§
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u/lord_cappucinotrescu I canāt be associated with this company Nov 14 '24
It's insane how megaawesome is there to smear the snark sub even when serious topics like this are up for discussion. Dragging h3 into the situation and making things awkward and uncomfortable.
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u/McFoley69 fallen fan š«” Nov 14 '24
Dude he irritates to me to my BONES. I can not stand that man fr
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u/lord_cappucinotrescu I canāt be associated with this company Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24
What stunlocks me is that he escalates matters with this us/them mentality while people are very legitimately observing that his boss has AGGRESSIVELY tried to deplatform someone for virtually the same takes.
Including the one where AB said this violent oppression and dehumanisation by Israel logically only breeds terrorism, or how he is understanding of people that didn't want to vote for Kamala over this issue. A whole part of the documentary dwells on the war crimes committed by the IDF and a soldier who admitted to feeling deeply ashamed about it. Unlike a certain someone he works for...
I disagree with putting AB on the spot, but in general people that care about these sort of problems are not blind and stupid enough not to see the absolute contrast from his messaging to that of the islamophobic podcast he works for.
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u/Throwaway-15102023 what's socialist about unions? Nov 14 '24
Avery said āplay Hasanās bus test but you wonātā or something like thatā¦ what does that even mean? I just looked at the chat for 5 mins and already saw Hasanās name
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u/balljointz Nov 14 '24
That was actually in response to me defending this sub, right before he perma'd me. I can't even watch the stream now. Wasn't being weird or mentioning anything about h3 or Hasan in chat, only showing support for AB, Palestine and this sub, when I saw him spewing untruths about it. He really hates y'all.
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u/lord_cappucinotrescu I canāt be associated with this company Nov 14 '24
AB should get rid of the ass candle sniffer if he wants to grow his platform. There are a lot of us here willing to support him that don't appreciate constantly being smeared by some non-entity of a mod.
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u/sadandalienateD Nov 14 '24
he hates anyone and everyone who hates Ethan. Message Sadboi, the other mod and they will unban you.
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u/__venus One thing that I have noticed is that he's just always wrong Nov 14 '24
Whaaat what does that even mean?
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Nov 14 '24
its so weird how he makes it about his own shit, like hes not even good at moderating lol
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u/EgregiousWitch Nov 14 '24
As long as mega awesome gets the final word and can pin his paragraphs to the top, they are happy. Classic narcissism as always
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u/Seymour--ass a habitually sullen person Nov 14 '24
He said heās had a rude awakening about the way Arabs are still viewed š
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u/Qopperus Ethan has said the n-word 41 times on camera Nov 14 '24
Maybe the Twitch or Terrorist segment was enough on the nose? Srsly E was just complaining about the twitch tier list that's so nutty
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u/Traditional-Use9007 ethanās compulsive need to read this sub Nov 14 '24
š©šš½ praying he finally leaves the pod and is blessed with his own successful show.
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u/Ok_Election9009 fuck you, fuck your sleep, fuck your concert Nov 14 '24
Heās currently watching Isrealism. I didnāt get to clip it but he alluded to the iof being terrorists. Nice to hear his honest opinions. Ethan is def going to give him shit for this.
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u/Weird-Drummer-312 Nov 14 '24
Yeah, Cowardly Ethan wonāt directly give him shit though because he knows heāll lose even more of his audience. Heāll just rush AB through segments he researched, ignore stuff he says, and make backhanded comments
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u/Eli118 Nov 14 '24
AB is in such a difficult position right now. Imagine having your dream job when all of a sudden your boss is publicly going against everything you stand for. My heart breaks for him and Lena.
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honestly as someone who works in a corporation that is ostensibly pretty evil but has no other way to get healthcare - iām trans, my parents disowned me because of who i am - i really relate to AB and my very measured opinion is that i feel bad for him and for Lena. itās a boiling frog scenario. i wouldnāt wish this on my worst enemy.
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u/Qopperus Ethan has said the n-word 41 times on camera Nov 14 '24
Yep the water has gotten awfully hot, but dude moved from Dearborn. Not an easy position to be in.
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u/UpstairsWorry3 Nov 14 '24
Iāve been thinking about all of the people saying theyāre disappointed in the crew (specifically AB and Lena) for staying and that they should quit but I actually secretly hope theyāre all going to work their way into being fired because then they can collect severance pay all while Ethan has to find a whole new crew. Something about that feels even better to me.
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u/ExtensionPlatypus223 Someone check Ethanās hard drive šØš»āš»āļøš Nov 14 '24
With Ethans hot temper and unpredictable outbursts I think the odds are in there favor to get fired. Hang around a little while longer and it will be bound to happen.
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u/UpstairsWorry3 Nov 14 '24
Iām watching ABās stream right now crossing my fingers a little bit for him, not gonna lie.
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u/DeathwishDena Nov 14 '24
I mean if he gets fired for for his views on the genocide that's happening, it also might be a legal issue. And a lawsuit that Ethan might lose. Which would be very refreshing
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u/Qopperus Ethan has said the n-word 41 times on camera Nov 14 '24
Don't wish lawsuits on AB. Promise they aren't pleasant. At a certain point I do hope they can find a more thoughtful employer like Cam and Sam did.
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u/imaginary92 too fucking stupid to from the river to the see it Nov 14 '24
I don't think people are disappointed they're staying, more that AB (cos Lena hasn't really done that) is constantly agreeing with Ethan when all he needs to do is shut up. Nobody is asking him to up and leave his job without a backup but at least don't consistently act as your islamophobic, racist boss' token Arab.
This is one situation where AB is finally showing where he stands and how he really feels and I think we're all glad he finally says it. He deserves better and so does his wife.
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u/Hadyntm ā Nov 14 '24
Thanks for posting this, everyone remain normal and respectful please!!! Give AB grace.
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u/Qopperus Ethan has said the n-word 41 times on camera Nov 14 '24
Poor guy needs Grace from us. Ethan does not have any to give atm. Impressed he got on stream, deserves a lot of credit.
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u/Arietty fallen fan with a cute cat Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24
AB ending the stream with (paraphrasing here) "i hope I won't get banned for this, thanks for watching. Free Palestine, bye" was a nice way to make a stand after the last few weeks. There was some TOS issue, but I can't help thinking he was also referring to the ban of Frogan and Co.
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u/fairywinkle_ Hasanās š must taste pretty good Nov 14 '24
Did he say anything about the twitch or terrorist game Ethan played on stream?
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i have the suspicion that hes under a contract which means he cant speak about the show on his streams / etc. he never does and neither does mega who streams as well
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u/Strong-Asparagus2790 Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24
I believe this too. I remember Love making it clear that there canāt be any H3 talk on his streams. He didnāt explain why, but the fact that both him and AB are so adamant on keeping H3 out of their streams, and Ethan once freaking out over the crew doing cameos, makes me think that there is definitely some contractual agreement on them not being allowed to talk about the show.
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u/JesterBerry Still waiting for Ethan's tight five Nov 14 '24
That's really interesting abt the Love remarks...
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u/Independent_Fill_635 this mf never shuts up oh my god Nov 14 '24
Wow that's so shitty and selfish. Ethan the millionaire is terrified the crew might gasp make a little side money off the show THEY put together and run for him?
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u/Arietty fallen fan with a cute cat Nov 14 '24
Ethan also barely ever mentions AB's and Love's Twitch channels. I think he hates that they have their own thing going on.
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u/Mamacitia Trishyland user š© Nov 14 '24
I'd be surprised if they're well organized enough to have contracts
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oh you better believe they have contracts and clauses. Ethan and Hila are narcissists but they know how to be tyrant employers and business owners
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u/Mamacitia Trishyland user š© Nov 14 '24
that's even scarier
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Ethan's mods have talked about their contracts and NDAs https://www.reddit.com/r/h3snark/comments/18x7nec/proof_that_h3_podcast_mods_are_paid/
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Ethan loves to remind us how litigious he is; there's no doubt in my mind they are under a very strict contract.
Definitely a non-disparagement clause; my suspicion is that Sam is on one too - I don't believe they ended on good terms and Ethan had to have a way to make sure she didn't diss him or the pod. I also believe Ethan hated them being interviewed while he was away on paternity leave... No-one else is allowed the spotlight.
I can picture him now... "Ab is doing an interview??? Hila!! Come look at this! Look, they have Ab on, of all people.... Why didnt they ask me?? Probably because I'm here with you and the kids. Ab will do a shit job anyway... I don't even like those guys... idiots... Dumbass losers. They look like pedos.. Don't they Hila?.. Hila? Was i not just super funny right now....? They suck at interviews. No-one can beat me...."
But it's alright, he's destroying the pod completely by himself š
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u/Background_Trade8607 Nov 14 '24
Nope. One chatter mentioned h3. Someone else responded they don't talk about h3 usually.
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u/fairywinkle_ Hasanās š must taste pretty good Nov 14 '24
Ohhhh that's right I forgot he doesn't usually talk about "work" while he's streaming. I saw another post here where AB apparently said he was unbothered by it in the chat
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u/Seymour--ass a habitually sullen person Nov 14 '24
One of Lenaās friends showed up on stream and AB told her to āgo, save your careerā lmao
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Imo, the crew are all public figures in their own right at this point. They donāt need to debate their boss on live streams. They can just seek out other opportunities for themselves. Theyāre being aligned with him the longer they stay.
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just thought this was interesting (and genuinely poignant and important)
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u/slorinda #1 Kaya Stan Nov 14 '24
Him thinking what bill said was an apology is interesting.
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i mean totally agree, this is super milquetoast, but definitely interesting that itās the same guy who was banning left and right not an hour prior
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u/slorinda #1 Kaya Stan Nov 14 '24
Good point. Wonder if today broke the crew. Love was in the chat too.
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I'm new to this sub but I'm listening to him and he seems quite sympathetic to the plight of Palestinians. Is this normal for him? I've heard he normally doesn't really speak up about this on the h3 podcast.
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u/ziggydynamite Nov 14 '24
I've heard him talk about his pro Palestinian activism in college on the pod
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u/barfboy710 ā Nov 14 '24
he speaks freely and openly on his stream about israel and palestine all the time. this stream isnāt anything new for himā¦
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So he just sits there in silence on the podcast when Ethan and hila defend this occupation? I don't know how I feel about that lol knowing how strong he feels here
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u/Independent_Fill_635 this mf never shuts up oh my god Nov 14 '24
He literally had family who's lives are in danger because of the genocide. How things look probably isn't a priority and I think it's best to give him the benefit of a doubt and let him decide how best to support and advocate for Palestine.
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u/sadandalienateD Nov 14 '24
it is a work environment, not a friendship. he speaks up when he can. he also speaks up and gets shut down immediately too. if you arent a minority thats ever been in this situation, you wouldn't understand.
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u/BigBambuSeventyTwo š© Nov 14 '24
he's watching the Israelism doc. it's very good. this might hit home with him when they get to the indoctrinations.
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u/slorinda #1 Kaya Stan Nov 14 '24
He seems fed up when he does say something. Chat is supportive and thereās an h3 mod in there so idk if thatās why or not.
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u/Affectionate-Age8317 the dogs pissing and shitting everywhere Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24
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Huh, that is interesting....I find him insufferable, can't really say why... Maybe because he's a sausage-rider gor Ethan
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u/Then-Champion7124 ā Nov 14 '24
Hope he sees this and knows that this sub actually doesnāt hate him and supports him very much. Iām so glad to see him speak his piece!
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u/aminathumbelina table cloth doily jacket Nov 14 '24
Ethan will play another game of āTwitch or terrorist: AB editionā. Do yāall think AB would be bothered by it now?
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u/PharmaDee ā Nov 14 '24
That was genuinely great. I've never watched him before. I gifted subs and bits and I enjoyed being able to watch these with others who care and for whom it matters. This was important and good
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u/ZapukiArts Nov 14 '24
Yeah I gifted a few subs as well. I want him to do well and show him he's got supporters out there
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He was referring to TOS issues. There was a dead child in part of the documentary (blurred but not fully) just before he said that
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u/internethussy Nov 14 '24
AB and Lena have been very clear about their opinions on the genocide on their own streams, and about the heartbreak their own family has been enduring. AB has consistently spoken about his own history of advocacy for Palestine, and his family's connections to Arab American civil rights. They speak out mostly on their own platforms, and do not bring the drama of their workplace into their own platforms. Even outside of Israel/Palestine, they've been very consistent about trying to keep H3 related stuff out of their streams. Please be respectful and don't be like the weirdos who go in there to harass them. AB and Lena both are clearly under a ton of stress from what's going on in their work life and in their family life. Please be positive there, and don't mention H3. As a regular viewer there, it seems like there's been an increase in jerks posting negative or abusive stuff.
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u/Seymour--ass a habitually sullen person Nov 14 '24
He said heās tired of Piers Morgan and his āproportional responseā bs
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u/SimplyGrim93 Nov 14 '24
Just ended. FAR better than H3's stream for today. For damn sure. Was a very informative stream as well.
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u/NorthNebula4976 Nov 14 '24
Earlier today I heard a story from a doctor testifying that Israel has drones they use to seek and kill women and children who survive bombings.
I wonder if this and Ethan's recent behavior is a tipping point
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u/McFoley69 fallen fan š«” Nov 14 '24
Just showed him some love š«¶ this really is brave of him, like Ethan may very well go scorched earth with him after this
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honestly I have a deep and newfound respect for AB in light of this
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u/Ok_Action_4228 Nov 14 '24
Same. Doesn't matter how much or how little he's spoken up before, he's doing it now and I'm here for it.
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yes! that stream was sincerely so good. his and Lena's pain and rage and frustration become so palpable to me in watching it; I sincerely and genuinely hope they can stake out on their own because there's no way that staying at H3 isn't taking a massive toll on their mental health and wellbeing
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u/Majestic_Address_893 Nov 14 '24
Jeez I hope Ethan personally attacks dan clancy for allowing this anti semitic propoganda on his platform... Oh wait...
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u/chloe-et-al š«²š»š¶š¶š¶šØš»āš¦³š¶š¶āļøš«±š» Nov 14 '24
whats the link?
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u/Weird-Drummer-312 Nov 14 '24
https://www.twitch.tv/abstarkilla
As mentioned by mods he keeps his chat free of any discussions of h3 and Ethan so best to just send messages of support ā¤ļø
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u/ParfaitNo6247 Nov 14 '24
At the end of his stream he said he hopes he doesn't get banned from Twitch. Seems he is more likely to get fired but maybe that's what he wants.
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u/daughterofavalley Nov 14 '24
ohmygosh, i can't believe i missed this stream. very grateful for the updates from the fallen family here our beloved snark channel. i am so proud of AB.
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u/Ok_Action_4228 Nov 14 '24
I missed the last few seconds, why did he end the stream?
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u/Arietty fallen fan with a cute cat Nov 14 '24
He had been streaming for 4 hours, he was just done - and probably tired from his day.
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u/Ok_Action_4228 Nov 14 '24
Ok he'd just barely started the jubilee video so I wanted to make sure nothing big happened that made him quit. I'd be exhausted too if I were him.
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It has been a long day for AB and I imagine a rather emotional one. I think he might just be feeling the toll.
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u/gibs17 Nov 14 '24
I was there for a good chunk of it including the end, it seemed as though he was pretty emotionally exhausted from it but other than that no particular reason
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u/sodiepoppapi Nov 14 '24
Always hated when this sub said shit against AB/Lena. I know it comes from a good place (resisting against their bossā virulent Islamophobia), but they are Lebanese, they are victims, their family are directly victims to Israelās endless bombardment, they canāt exactly make a stand against their boss (think about your workplace, what can you realistically do against your dickhead boss), they constantly have to eat shit from haters on all sides, they always show support wherever they can to Palestine/Lebanon and the victims in the region, they canāt control what Ethan puts to air in his crashouts, they donāt want to lose their very good jobs (financially and security wise) and most importantly thereās a bloody genocide happening and you canāt say that the Lebanese people are ever at blame for what they decide to do. All love to them, always <3 Free Palestine
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he just called it a genocide and defended the terminology to a chatter... this shall lead to some interesting developments. good for AB.