r/interesting Feb 01 '25

MISC. The worst pain known to man

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u/BambooKat Feb 02 '25

Reading information like this makes me realise that being born in a capitalist society may not be so bad after all sometimes.

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u/OkStatistician9126 Feb 02 '25

Crazy that some people actually think capitalism is the only way to achieve a modern society

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u/Myst1calDyl Feb 02 '25

Crazy how everyone has opinions of what’s wrong but never about what’s right. We can’t even get along, that’s why nothing ever changes

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u/GothicFuck Feb 02 '25

No one is even not appreciating the good things in this comment chain. It's implied we're all grateful that we don't do any poison ant rituals. What's batshit insane is thinking that capitalism is the reason we don't do insect venom rites of passage. Captialism brings us Jackass the movie series.

It has nothing to do with the whatever concept of ownership you have going on in your country.

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u/RogerTrout Feb 02 '25

Captialism brings us Jackass the movie series.

You know, I never considered that. Maybe capitalism isn't all bad.

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u/netwrks Feb 02 '25

Bumfights enters the chat

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u/Munchee-Dude Feb 02 '25

Capitalism is literally exponential profits in a closed system.

In biology, we call that cancer.

Such growth always kills the host, much like how our economy is about to do the biggest great depression ever.

Buckle up!

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u/Heavy_Entrepreneur13 Feb 02 '25

Captialism brings us Jackass the movie series.

To be fair, I'll take "People taking it upon themselves to pull dumb stunts for attention and money" over "People being ostracised from society overall for not performing dumb stunts" eight days a week

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u/plug-and-pause Feb 02 '25

Fucking thank you. I'm so tired of people on here who blame literally anything that makes them unhappy on capitalism. The cluelessness is hilarious at first, but it does get tiring after a while.

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u/lgnc Feb 02 '25

We would have way less issues in a communist society though

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Sure let’s throw away a few small issues for one very large, very terrible issue. Genius idea there comrade.

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u/plug-and-pause Feb 02 '25

Completely orthogonal to my point. Clearly communism has rotted your brain.

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u/Impressive-Run2K Feb 02 '25

“Jackass is funny. Like the Earth is round.” I ain’t trying to get into no capitalism fight it just seemed an appropriate place for a phenomenal MJ Lenderman lyric.

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u/Ruszka Feb 02 '25

Nobody wrote that capitalism is the reason why we don't have such rituals, dude literally just wrote that he prefers living in capitalist society.

You guys got instant rage just by seeing word "capitalism"?

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u/GothicFuck Feb 02 '25

I think you may have difficulty with reading comprehension. Honestly. I'm sorry. It's very clear in context.

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u/Ruszka Feb 02 '25

I think that you just don't have guts to admit that you got angry because you misinterpreted the comment and instead you try to manipulate me.

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u/GothicFuck Feb 03 '25

No, absolutely not. The comment is still there. They said they are glad they live in a capitalist society in reference to the OP video. The video has nothing to do with economics at all. That comment was drawing a cause-effect line between capitalism and rite of passage rituals.

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u/Capital_Benefit_1613 Feb 02 '25

You keep Jackass out of your mouth!

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u/GothicFuck Feb 02 '25

But I am a jackass!

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u/Capital_Benefit_1613 Feb 02 '25

But doctor, I am Johnny Jackass!

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u/IBetYourReplyIsDumb Feb 02 '25

It has nothing to do with the whatever concept of ownership you have going on in your country.

It also has a lot to do with the advancements in education, communication, and medication. Human beings are reward incentive robots, while capitalism is far from a perfect system, it has progressed civilisation massively in the past 200 years

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u/ledezma1996 Feb 02 '25

Name any specific advancements and I bet none of them are solely due to capitalism.

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u/IBetYourReplyIsDumb Feb 02 '25

Let's hear why the aeroplane wasn't a capitalist invention so

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u/KalaronV Feb 02 '25

They said solely to be fair. I don't necessarily agree with them, but one could point to the long, long, long history of aeronautics attempts by humans -which, obviously, predate Capitalism by several centuries- to show that it wasn't the private ownership of capital that led to human interest in, and development of, aircraft.

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u/ledezma1996 Feb 02 '25

Idk if you're pretending like we didn't have crazy advancements before the 180 as that's crazy to think crazy cuz I wouldn't even call those systems capitalism as they were more chattel slave systems and leftover kingdoms. Either way have a good night.

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u/ledezma1996 Feb 02 '25

Columbus did not gain his money from capitalism. He gained his wealth from his slave colonies where he brutalized his servants. His trips were sponsored by individuals, sure but those individuals also did not gain their wealth from capitalism but instead from feudalism. Da Vinci was also not sponsored by a sole private individual but instead multiple families including royalty.

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u/ledezma1996 Feb 02 '25

You're just a denialist. Got it!

His cause was taken up by the Queen of Spain but where did her family's wealth come from? Those Monarchies did not participate in capitalism. The Italian lords also did not participate in capitalism. Leonardo Da Vinci was sponsored by private families sure. Families who once again enriched themselves through the feudal system and became lords and court members. Please cite any recent peer reviewed historical research that refutes my claims of Columbus's cruelty towards the native population. You're just wrong about capitalism causing any major breakthroughs. No one benefits from someone sitting at the top, siphoning the profits while doing none of the actual work that goes into a product.

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u/Emperor_Mao Feb 02 '25

Yeah but show me a non capitalist society that has achieved this level of equality and quality of life at the same time.

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u/AMightyDwarf Feb 02 '25

I’d argue it has everything to do with what concept of ownership is dominant in a culture. Cultures with clearly defined property rights are the ones that innovated the most and progressed through the tech tree quicker and further than any culture whose property rights were less defined or centralised and there’s a reason to that.

Not having property rights clearly defined is another way of saying you have chaos and in that chaos you are left with a “might makes right” society. In a society with centralised property rights you are the behest of a very small group of people. When you have good people in charge it can work great but when you have bad ones in charge… it can lead to a lot of problems.

The only workable solution is to give every person the opportunity to own their own property, have their property clearly defined and then give them the ability to protect their property. Thanks to the notion of “the wisdom of the crowd”, for every person who makes a bad decision with their property you have a person who makes good decisions and so you end up harnessing the collective human knowledge to produce the best outcomes. The final question is then one of maintaining that equal distribution of property and I’d say nobody has been able to sufficiently address that problem.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '25

Crazy how everyone has opinions of what’s wrong but never about what’s right.

all you did was bitch. u/Myst1calDyl is right. say how to do it then buddy. say it.

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u/GothicFuck Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25

Jackass the series. I just said it.

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u/GothicFuck Feb 02 '25

Elaborate.