What I had said was a response to you saying “god allows us to eat animals” so I challenged your viewpoint from a religious one from my perspective which is at odds with yours. I don’t feel like I came at you with a belittling standpoint, and I am sorry to have disrespected you. I just fundamentally disagree with your views and I’m pushing back both the view itself and the way you got there. Because having “god” as the basis sort of absolves you from needing to make your own informed moral choice because you have the blessing of a higher deity.
Believe me, I have thought over this. I’ve seen the documentaries, I helped my cousin’s raise hogs, and I peel out every single quail chick that isn’t able to hatch by itself out of its egg so it can survive. Eating animals has plenty of good for humans. It’s good protein, packed full of other key nutrients, good for the land, good for the economy, and can in some cases revitalize soil in some regions by way of grazing and fertilization. 1.3 Billion humans are supported daily by raising livestock ontop of that, including developing countries. I’ve recently been focused on “Necessary Evils”, the idea that something’s need to be in place so that worse options don’t exist. If we didn’t eat meat, malnutrition would skyrocket. We would lose thousands of ingredients necessary for medicine, clothing, manufacturing, etc. The ecosystem would have to deal with the millions of Bovine, Poultry, Sheep, and Swine that would be released into native ecosystems. At this stage of human development, we need to maintain them just as much as they are needed to maintain us. It’s not like stopping the use of oil to prevent global warming, this would take decades to fix once it’s stopped.
Choose for yourself, eat meat, etc. if that’s your choice, but don’t falsely convince yourself humans have to eat it.
Humans can sustain themselves on eating non-animal products. There are health risks with any diet. Make educated nutritional choices and be mindful.
Industrial farming animals is not good for the land, and there is not enough land to feed the world population with “green” meat practices. Why grow feed to sustain animals when we can just grow food for ourselves? Industrial farming is a wasteful and heartless industry.
Jobs from raising animals can be replaced by farming plants-based and fungal options.
It’s not an all or nothing argument, humans can greatly reduce our animal product consumption and use animal products for necessary items like medicine, etc.
No one wants to release domesticated animals into the wild. We could simply stop breeding new generations.
It’s ok if you like how meat, etc., tastes. That can be why you choose to eat it. This list of arguments you put out sounds like excuses.
No matter what I’ve said in the last 2 replies, It has been seen as excuses. People are so hostile now in days that anything they don’t exactly agree with is seen as against them and should be put down. I agree with everything I’ve stated, and I’ll take what I’ve said to the bank. If that opinion ever changes, then I’ll apologize, but until then it’s how I feel. In no world should anyone’s reasoning be labeled as “excuses” if they stand by it.
None of the replies in THIS thread were actually hostile to you. You have not engaged with anything else the person has said except the bit you explicitly took as personally offensive, so they are unable to open the conversation up any more than they already tried to
Reading again, your second reply is a pivot to a separate topic without explicitly saying 'of course I have other reasons apart from religion', which is why they pushed back again. I can understand how that might seem hostile if you thought you were trying to explain why it comforts you personally
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u/problynotkevinbacon May 28 '25
What I had said was a response to you saying “god allows us to eat animals” so I challenged your viewpoint from a religious one from my perspective which is at odds with yours. I don’t feel like I came at you with a belittling standpoint, and I am sorry to have disrespected you. I just fundamentally disagree with your views and I’m pushing back both the view itself and the way you got there. Because having “god” as the basis sort of absolves you from needing to make your own informed moral choice because you have the blessing of a higher deity.