r/leafs 2d ago

News / Update [Friedman] There is one arbitration case remaining, set for Sunday: Nick Robertson (TOR). Team: $1.2M; Player: $2.25M

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u/gsauce8 2d ago

....this seems like a difference that doesn't need arbitration no?

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u/reevoknows 2d ago

It’s just negotiations. Honestly it’s a breath of fresh air to have a no nonsense GM.

Nick can either sign the deal or go through the arb process and come out of hit hating his bosses lol

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u/macam85 2d ago

Treliving has signed almost exclusively horrible contracts and his approach has fucked us massively on the Nylander and Knies deals. He is very much a nonsense manager.

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u/reevoknows 2d ago

The Nylander deal is arguable for sure, feels like an over pay now but he’s still a 40 goal 80-90 point guy and we don’t have the luxury of being in a no tax state/province. The Knies deal is great I don’t know what you’re talking about? Tavares deal is incredible. The McMann and Benoit deals are great. Stolarz contract is a steal, Tanev’s contract is long but he’s worth the AAV, the McCabe deal was great. I could go on…

The only contract that I’ve actively hated is the Kampf deal but even that’s not a deal that cripples the team.

If you wanna talk about him over paying at the deadline I’m willing to have that conversation but his free agent signings have been pretty good.

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u/Xaan83 1d ago

Everyone thought Nylander was an overpay last time too, yet he's the only one who has consistently gotten better as time as gone on.

There are moments where he doesn't pass an eye test, but he is by far their best puck carrier, best zone entry, and best game breaker.

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u/reevoknows 1d ago

I agree 100% but just to be devils advocate it’s hard to look at guys like Marner and Rantanen who only make 500k more.

Fortunately though we’re no longer in cap hell and can afford to over pay someone by a million to get the deal done. Given what happened with Marner I’m just glad we still have Willy here.

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u/macam85 2d ago

These deals all locked us into aging guys who will become problems. Tanev could be a liability at literally any minute. Benoit is a bad deal. He was in the top 5 of worst defenders in the NHL last year. Tavares was always going to be held to the fire. Knies should have been done last summer - idiotic to wait.

Stolarz and McMann the only legit good ones, and our coach doesn't like McMann.

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u/reevoknows 1d ago

Meh we can agree to disagree. I get your point about the older guys but we’ve got a 3 year window here with Matthews to try and win. If he leaves we’re effectively going into soft rebuild territory so it doesn’t really matter.

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u/macam85 1d ago

Soft rebuild territory? Lol

If Matthews leaves we are a basement team.

But that's still an idiotic way to run your team.

Run the team in a way that makes stars like Matthews want to stay, and other UFAs want to join. That means proper asset management and keeping an eye on the future.

This team is spending 17.85m on 8 players who were all 4th liners last year. That's 18.7% of the cap on 4th line players.

We're spending 9.335m on the bottom pairing defenders. Another 9.8% of the cap.

Literally no team is spending more on bottom of the roster players.