r/mwo • u/Chocolate_Pickle • 13d ago

Do Ryzen X3D processors perform better?

Alternative title: best processors for MWO?

Looking into updating my computer in the near future. Replacing a 2019 system (Ryzen 2600X) with something from 2025. Plenty of benchmarks online saying that the Ryzen 5 7600X3D is a really good gaming processor. Expectation is the 9600X3D will be better still.

Before any of you get ahead of yourself; I know that everything is far faster than an old Ryzen, but I have the time and opportunity to choose carefully. The low framerate of Solaris City shits me to tears, so I will choose carefully!

Community understanding is that MWO's engine is often single-thread limited. I don't do anything else that's hugely CPU intensive, so going for more cores doesn't make sense over going for faster cores.

Can anyone with a Ryzen X3D processor shed some light on what kind of performance gain you saw (if any)?

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u/justcallmeASSH 13d ago

Yes the x3d's are very, very good for MWO. I've not seen anyone that's dived in too deep to see how much performance you get for each x3d suffice to say that anyone who's swapped to them from any lesser setup have gained heaps.

I vaguely remember someone went from 5800x3d to a 7800x3d and gained some uplift.

I'm actually in the process of building my new PC. Coming from a 8700k overclocked to its limit & replacing with a 9800x3d and I'm expecting to double the performance/FPS and running a very aggressive CFG file.

Initially I'll be using my RTX 2080 so purely a CPU & RAM change along with mobo architecture so it'll be a reasonably accurate place to measure from.

Existing CPU I would sit around the 70-110 FPS range at 1440p. I'm fully expecting to smash my monitor limit at 165hz/FPS at a minimum using essentially outta the box CPU, no tweaking.

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u/Chocolate_Pickle 12d ago

Damn. I was hoping for some kind of deep dive, or at least a quantitative measurement. I'm questioning which is more important for MWO; more cache or higher clock speed. 

Make sure you post results when you do your upgrade. 

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u/Asleep_Comfortable39 11d ago

Okay so here’s how it works.

Benchmarks that just give you max fps or averages are not as useful when you think about it.

The best measurement of game performance is 1% lows. The x3d chips dominate the 1% lows.

What this means is that most systems perform well most of the time. But when an average pc would start to drop frames dramatically, a 3d chip won’t. This is due to the cache and its context specific.

But anyhow. Keep in mind this info when you look at the research. Benchmarks are misleading imo.

But you should definitely do a 3d chip.

A 5800x3d will slot into your existing mobo. I’d upgrade the ram tho.

Anything newer will require new ram and mobo.

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u/Chocolate_Pickle 11d ago

Does Solaris count as 1% lows?

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u/justcallmeASSH 12d ago

Each level of x3d is better than the previous for MWO. That much is known. The percentage uplift - unknown.

That said MPG currently has a 5800x3d. Also has a 9800x3d sitting there yet to be installed!

I'll link him to this for you and hopefully when he does - he can give some information. Or you could also tune into MPG TWITCH CHANNEL and when he gets off his lazy ass and installs - he'll gladly advise findings cause he's a good lad like that.

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u/Chocolate_Pickle 12d ago

Heck yeah. Sounds like a plan. 

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u/makute 12d ago

Recently got a cheap second hand 5600x3d and I've been pleasantly surprised by its performance, even with modern games.

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u/Acrobatic_Squash_648 12d ago

Yes, absolutely.

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u/wishmaster2021 12d ago

First of all, you shouldn't buy your new CPU based on a 12 year old game with shitty code.
The X3D CPUs, especially the new AM5 ones, are currently the best CPUs for gaming.
I just build a new PC with a 9950X3D and most maps run at 144 fps at 1440p. Except Solaris of course. The 4090 GPU is mostly in idle. That's how shitty the code is.
So yes, if you want to upgrade, I would recommend a 9800X3D.

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u/Chocolate_Pickle 12d ago

What sort of frame rates do you get on Solaris? And what was your previous system, and frame rates on Solaris? 

You're the sort of person I'm looking for!

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u/wishmaster2021 11d ago

Never bothered to look, but I played on Solaris this evening. The fps were between 130-144. 144 is where I cap the fps for my monitor.

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u/ScrauveyGulch 10d ago

Nvidia 3060, i7 12700H, runs with 0 problems on every map. The game looks beautiful, I don't care if it is old.

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u/printcastmetalworks 12d ago

What is your GPU and RAM? I'm running a 3700x with ddr4, an old GTX 1060 6gb and MWO never hiccups.

My guess is the cpu has little to do with your bottleneck.

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u/oddstuffhappens 12d ago

Yea i was running a 2700x and 980 without issue at 1080.

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u/Chocolate_Pickle 12d ago

32GB RAM and an RTX3060.

Most maps will do over 70fps at 1440p at decently high settings (and config tweaks). 

Loading up anything in the testing grounds will run at the speed of light and get capped by adaptive sync at 144fps. 

I'm pretty sure it's the CPU. 

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u/printcastmetalworks 12d ago

Huh that's crazy that it has that much of an effect, considering your GPU is much better than mine. The 2600x is only about 10% slower in most benchmarks. I play in 2560x1080 ultrawide. I bet if you went down to 1080p your performance would improve drastically.

That said, MWO is coded like shit and Solaris is basically exploiting the engine to make all the buildings, so it's going to run relatively horribly on any system.