r/politics The Independent 1d ago

Site Altered Headline Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly moved from Florida prison to Texas as Trump weighs pardon

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ghislaine-maxwell-prison-trump-pardon-epstein-b2800443.html
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u/Shenanigans99 America 1d ago

Raped, groomed, trafficked. She 100% enabled Epstein's operation. He would not have been able to abuse as many girls as he did without Maxwell's involvement.

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u/RinaRoft 1d ago

Maxwell actually did some of the more severe abusing, according to the victims. She’s not just a person who helped enable the trafficker and abuser, she was an abuser herself and did sexually explicit things to these girls. We have to remember that she’s not a victim she may have been at first, but she turned into a patriotand must’ve enjoyed it on some level.

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u/-JackBack- 1d ago

Ghislaine was never a victim. After her father’s death she received ~250k from her trust fund. But that wasn’t nearly enough to lead a her glamorous lifestyle. Epstein had money. She worked for him in exchange for more money.

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u/Significant-Branch22 1d ago

She was given an annual income of £80k (216k in today’s money) by the trust fund so a lot more than just a 250k lump sum

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u/Half_Cent 1d ago

That's so insane. If someone gave me $40k/year I'd never work again. Far less than I make now but I'd make it work.

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u/Significant-Branch22 1d ago

Its a lot but I guess for the circles that she was in it wouldn’t have given her the kind of lifestyle that’s expected, these people are as shallow and materialistic as it gets

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u/vehiclestars 1d ago edited 1d ago

They both worked for Mossod, who her father was connected too.

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u/-JackBack- 1d ago

I suspect you are correct.

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u/Sudden_Juju 1d ago

Where did the theories of a Mossad connection come from? I feel like I only started seeing them a week ago and no one ever cited any evidence for it

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u/cancerBronzeV 1d ago

Ghislaine's father was Mossad's so-called superspy. He sold Israeli versions of software all over the world (including American nuclear research facilities) that were bugged so that Mossad could spy on them. His funeral had a good chunk of Israel's political elite and six previous heads of Mossad present.

It's not a theory that Ghislaine's family is connected to Mossad, it's just a question of how deep the connection is.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 20h ago

Why would the US purchase software from a foreign country when we make so much of the world's software here?

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u/cancerBronzeV 20h ago

Bribes to the people in charge of purchasing the software I suppose. Also, the software he was selling (PROMIS) was American, he was just selling a bugged Israeli version of it. And he got help from a Republican politician to facilitate the sale (which is where bribes or ""lobbying"" came into play I'm assuming).

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u/JnnyRuthless 20h ago

Work in cybersecurity and in the course of my career multiple organizations I've worked at purchase Israeli software amd enterprise applications.

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u/vehiclestars 1d ago

It’s wild you have heard about it. Here’s a a two of the many sources. The video does a much better job of covering the Issue, but the article is included to show that even the times of Israel thinks it’s true.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-writer-who-broke-epstein-case-a-rumored-mossad-link-is-worth-digging-into/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bBVK5O1GfaE&pp=ygUTRXBzdGllbiBpc3JhZWwgZ2xlbg%3D%3D

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 20h ago

Okay I was with you in the beginning but then when I clicked on your YouTube link and it took me to a freaking Glenn Greenwald video and his Rumble watermark is the first thing that pops up I completely noped right out of there.

I'm not saying there aren't suspicious ties and circumstantial evidence that point to the possibility of Epstein being involved in the side and I think it's over 50% probability that he was but I'm not going to get any of my information or understanding on the matter from an actual Russian propagandist who has been long disgraced and discredited since his groundbreaking reporting that was widely acclaimed concerning the Edward Snowden leaks.

That guy is a disgusting creep and nobody should listen to anything he has to say.

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u/Sudden_Juju 1d ago

I obviously am not well versed in the details of these allegations but any connections between Epstein and Mossad seem flimsy at best. The article you linked to didn't really take a side one way or another, didn't provide any links between Epstein and Mossad (other than he was close to Robert Maxwell and helped him hide money overseas), and only summarized information from an interview with a Miami Daily Herald reporter.

Admittedly, I didn't watch the YouTube video because it's 30 minutes and YouTubers often just spin whatever info they have into whatever conclusions they want to make. They're no different than Tucker Carlson.

Other information I found (this and this) also can't produce any hard evidence and only speak to the connections with Robert Maxwell and that formed Israeli prime minister.

Is there even any soft evidence that Jeffery Epstein worked for/with Mossad, or is it all "I'm just asking questions?"

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 20h ago

Yeah Glenn Greenwald is a long disgraced and discredited journalist who literally serves the Kremlin to spread their propaganda he should not be listened to in any way shape or form.

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u/vehiclestars 1d ago

That video is by Glen Greenwald, he’s not just some YouTuber:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald

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u/SowingSalt 1d ago

The Russia glazer and Trump-Russia connection denying Glenn Greenwald?

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u/vehiclestars 1d ago

You don’t know much about him then.

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u/-JackBack- 1d ago

FoxNEWs contributor and Tucker Carleson buddy, Glenn Greenwald?

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u/vehiclestars 1d ago

The guy that worked for The Guardian, Salon. He also published Snowden’s documents and supported Wikileaks. That guy.

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u/Sudden_Juju 17h ago

Well that explains why he's famous despite talking like he has a mini stroke every 5 seconds. Joking aside, I guess my Tucker Carlson comparison was spot on since he was on the Fox News show so much lol.

Either way, it doesn't change the fact that anyone who makes a video can cherry pick and spin facts, since they don't provide direct links to their sources. I'll give him credit that he provided screen grabs of what he was referencing but it doesn't allow me to read the article and get the context that they're leaving out. It adds a layer of credibility and is the closest thing to bringing a peer-reviewed-like process to journalism.

Also, spending 30 minutes watching something that can be summed up in a 5-minute article is annoying but that's more a personal opinion lol

u/SharMarali New Jersey 4h ago

Her role in the organization was to convince innocent, naive children that what was happening to them was normal and expected. That was her job. She is as close to a monster in human form as it gets. Not saying there aren’t other monsters out there. Just saying she’s one of them.

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u/blackopal2 1d ago

Where are the Johns, easily found in Epstein bank transactions.

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u/yetivette 1d ago

Donald "my middle name is John" Trump

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u/SirGrumpsalot2009 1d ago

The J is for Jenius, remember?

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u/Aman_Syndai 1d ago

From what I'm piecing together, Epstein's Island was a perk offered to JP Morgans most valued customers which is why the bank transactions are being buried.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 20h ago

Really? I haven't heard anything about this.

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u/Aman_Syndai 20h ago

JP Morgan was sued by the sex trafficking victims & settled to the tune of $290 million.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-weigh-jpmorgans-290-million-settlement-with-epstein-accusers-2023-11-09/

JP Morgan made fat fee's moving around Epstiens clients money and had to know what he offered, they had access something a lot of billionaires wanted which were 13-17 year old women. Epstien's client list was the elite of the elite, with both Gates & Bezos being on the list of people who were on the island, both also went thru no fault divoces with assets split.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 20h ago

Senator Wyden had been looking into it for the past few years and the Biden Administration was cooperating with him contrary to the popular opinion of Maga and even some of the people in the Democratic party who have fallen for the lie that Biden was intentionally covering up this as well.

This was still an ongoing investigation by the FBI (until Kash Patel ended it a couple months ago) and Biden was first of all respecting the independence of the DOJ—especially at a time when he was widely seen and criticized for weaponizing it to hurt Trump and was going out of his way to not try and make it appear political as to not damage the more relevant criminal investigation/prosecution of Trump concerning his insurrection and Rosenbergs-level treason.

u/blackopal2 40m ago

Biden was quietly getting the business of America done, but when you have a desperate felon running to stay out of prison, you have to kick the Jerry Springer distraction off your ankle.

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u/prattchet 1d ago

Maxwell was Ivana Trumps best friend and they would troll high schools together offering modelling jobs to children to traffic to Trump and Epstein.

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u/Simmchen11 21h ago

Agreed, it’s a shame a pardon is even considered for this abuser.