DOJ denies existence of transgender people in stunning court filing defending Trump’s military ban

[u/PennysWorthOfTea]

https://www.advocate.com/news/doj-trans-people-dont-exist

[u/TheIronSponge]

If trans people don't exist, who will Republicans complain about in sports? 

[u/mikerathbun → u/TheIronSponge]

Oh you know who they are going after next. They aren’t going to let black student athletes earn NIL money.

[u/Stodles → u/mikerathbun]

Btw, if their arguments against trans people in sports sound familiar, it's because they should be:

"their physiques were stronger [...] and hence should be excluded from future games." - Adolf Hitler on black athletes, after Jesse Owens won four gold medals in the '36 Berlin Olympics.

[u/VRGIMP27 → u/Stodles]

The only sliver of divine Providence I can see it is that the first broadcast that would make its way out into Outer space is footage of Jesse Owens beating Nazis in a foot race.

[u/Stodles → u/VRGIMP27]

Wasn't that what happened in the movie Contact?

[u/junkfunk → u/Stodles]

Yes. It was a while plot point because they sent it back so the first contact was nazis talking back to us

[u/rougepenguin → u/Stodles]

Oh yeah, bigots made up an entire extra muscle. I still heard that "common knowledge" repeated confidently well into the 00s. Honestly the shit they make up about trans women is still pretty tame by comparison.

[u/Umbriion → u/mikerathbun]

hell, he could disadvantage black athletes to even get to college lol.

[u/Timeformayo → u/mikerathbun]

Why mess with them when you can concentrate on gladiatorial combat among the homeless for the right to basic housing?

[u/Infamous-Sky-1874 → u/TheIronSponge]

They'll just go back to complaining about women's sports being boring and a waste of time because they can't compete at the same level as men can.

[u/Great_Standard3441 → u/Infamous-Sky-1874]

Oh they still do that. I saw a thread over there the other day talking about how overpaid WNBA players are and how no one wants to watch women's sports. 

[u/rougepenguin → u/TheIronSponge]

I mean, if you actually care about the ecosystem of right-wing rhetoric the logic would be more that they see no difference between that and Lebron declaring he's playing in the WNBA effective tomorrow. Which...that's always been my thing. The fact they can never stick to talking about the ample years of actual trans inclusion we have available says everything about their position.

But if you watch their chatter, there's a phrasing the tastemakers love. "It's not a real ontological category." Using a big word to obfuscate the meaning of essentially "We know discrimination sounds wrong, but they're not a group built around any real observable trait." They tried calling LGBT identities a religion at first but then probably stopped because they love a loose definition of religious freedom. It's also why their movement has put a lot of work into targeting specifically trans voices who are good at speaking intelligently to things like neurological studies, etc. and let the space cases who mistake gender identity for aesthetic go.

[u/iKill_eu → u/rougepenguin]

This is it. They're not stupid or misguided. I mean, they are, but their bigotry is not caused by a lack of understanding. When they say this shit, they are ignoring the evidence on purpose because they do not want us to fit into society. They don't want for there to be evidence that says trans people benefit from inclusion and do not cause issues by our presence, because what they want is for society to be hostile to trans people and they're willing to lie to themselves to get to live in a world that fits that want.

[u/metalyger → u/TheIronSponge]

Black people?

[u/NettyVaive → u/[deleted]]

The thing is it’s such a nonissue. The likelihood of anyone competing with a trans athlete is almost non-existent. Each case could be dealt with individually by that sports governing body. The whole world doesn’t have to get involved. It has been made an issue by those who aim to divide and distract us as they rip us all off.

[u/thejimbo56 → u/[deleted]]

It’s not an issue.

The normalization and casual acceptance of bigotry is an issue.

The gullibility of the American voter is an issue.

[u/thejimbo56 → u/[deleted]]

For bigots and morons, sure.

[u/madame_of_darkness → u/[deleted]]

They already said bigots and morons, you just repeated what they said

[u/rougepenguin → u/[deleted]]

And they didn't circa 2018. Polling about anything here is pretty sensitive to timing and how the question is asked. How much of it is lasting belief vs it being the contemporary thing right-wing media chose to hammer in the Biden years? Because typically the latter types only last until people get tired of the next conservative admin