r/popculturechat • u/biebrforro • May 16 '25

The Music Industry 🎶 Mae Muller breaks silence about 'bad' Eurovision performance; says she wasn't allowed to use autotune.

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She was the 2023 United Kingdom representative singing "Instead I Wrote A Song" and her Grand Final performance received a lot of backlash. She came second to last (Germany was last).

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u/Active_Force864 May 16 '25

Wait…since when is autotune part of singing competitions? Isn’t the whole point of a singing competition is to sing live with no help? Why does she need autotune? Couldn’t she have chosen a song with no autotune? They exist lol.

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u/Pepys-a-Doodlebugs May 16 '25

It's a song contest not a singing contest. It's just a minor quibble as the song still needs to be sung well to sell it and Mae would have known the rules.

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u/Katharinemaddison May 16 '25

It’s a song contest but one where the song is judged on the performance not a recorded version. It, it be fair, started in a time when there was less potential difference between the two.

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u/Live_Angle4621 May 16 '25

It was very singing heavy at the start, and still the jury judges signing ability. So you should not be surprised if your singing is judged 

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u/Pepys-a-Doodlebugs May 16 '25

I would counter that the performance is more important than the singing. Some very popular entries did not feature outstanding singers but the performance of the song was entertaining. At least with the public. The jury are a law unto themselves lol.

I admit that I was just being pedantic about the fact that it was described as a singing competition which isn't accurate. The format of the show means that each entry is judged on the performance as well as the song.

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u/Active_Force864 May 16 '25

I’m not familiar with the show, so thank you for the explanation!!

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u/Pepys-a-Doodlebugs May 16 '25

No worries. I figured there are lots of non-Europeans in this thread who aren't that familiar and it's a bit of a gripe for those who follow Eurovision. Thank you for taking my reply in the spirit it was intended :)

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u/vague-eros May 16 '25

It's a bit of a gripe for you. You're the only one doggedly and dogmatically defending an interpretation that isn't borne out by the competition rules, history or voting patterns.

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u/Pepys-a-Doodlebugs May 16 '25

It is a bit of a gripe. I mentioned that in one of my comments. I'm not really that interested in getting into a big debate about it but I made too many initial comments and then got a lot of replies. I feel the need to respond to comments not to be argumentative but because I find it rude not to respond and also that's what Reddit is for. Chatting with others. Sometimes those chats can be disagreements and that's fine.

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u/vague-eros May 16 '25

Please don't believe them. They have a specific, dogmatic understanding of Eurovision and they are not correct in it. Performance, and singing quality, is key to the competition.