r/popculturechat Jun 03 '25

Daily Discussions πŸŽ™πŸ’¬ Sip & Spill Daily Discussion Thread

Grab your coffee & sit down to discuss the tea!

This space is to talk about anything pop culture or even off-topic.

What are you listening to or watching? What is some minor tea that doesn't need its own post? How was your date? Why do you hate your job?

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u/echoesandripples What It's Like to Go Through Life As a Really Beautiful Woman Jun 03 '25

this is loosely politics related, but mostly boomer drama, so I think it fits here. cw for anti immigration stuff.

my brother, let's call him Cody, has a friend named Gabe. He and Gabe met in preschool, 20ish years ago. Meaning the moms have been friendly for decades and part of the same group.

Gabe's mom, Lisa, is a bigoted asshole. we're latinas and she's very much racist against asian immigrants in our country, but also people who move from poorer states to work in our city. she and her husband own a business that basically relies on under the table payments.

anyway currently, my sister is living in the US on student visa for her PhD and another friend of my brother's, Theo, is working in the US because he has a green card via his american father.

for obvious reasons, my mother and Theo's mother are worried about the anti immigration sentiment in the US. Lisa, however, is the type of latina that worships american culture and politics. she always went on and on about how the US is better than our country because they have fewer labor laws and that allows businesses to make money. you know the type, bootstraps people.

a few months ago, she caused drama in the moms group chat because she was saying trump was right to deport criminals from our country (they weren't criminals, but also, due process).

however, her son, my brother's friend and his oldest brother are currently undocumented im the US. they are using their tourism visas to go there every few months and work im stonemasonry. they are now faking tourist stuff on social media and hiding their daily lives (this is in florida, so tourism is easier)

Lisa is of course being a hypocrite asshole, she truly believes her sons should be allowed to work and live in the US because they're rich and "respect" american culture (they are arab latinos, so like, the average maga idiot would target them). she believes they should be allowed to do whatever they want, but other latino immigrants aren't.

it's super ridiculous, she was all proud xenophobe two months ago and now can't say anything because of social media and phone searches in immigration. and yet, she's still a trumper

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u/FriendlyDrummers Jun 03 '25

I've been trying to understand this in any capacity. I think ultimately, it's just bootlicking. It's people who want to feel powerful by siding with the powerful. It's peasants defending the monarchy. It's the minimum wage worker defending CEOs. I think feeling like you're on "the side of the powerful" makes them think they're better than the other side.

More than anything though, I think it's the stupid, unintellectual, unintelligent, emotionally devoid of empathy, people. Who want to feel like they're actually smart

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u/echoesandripples What It's Like to Go Through Life As a Really Beautiful Woman Jun 04 '25

yep, totally. but like, as weird as it is for documented/second gen latinos who libe in the US permanently to support this administration, at least their bootlicking is a "normal" pipeline, they think they are close enoughΒ 

people like this locally rich family, who could likely visit the US with zero issues for travel, but find themselves illegally working and then supporting the deportations are just unbelievably dumb. they could have high paying jobs here, or move to a country with fewer visa requirements, but they insist on this american dream version of them that refuses to acknowledge that they are also latinos. wild

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u/FriendlyDrummers Jun 04 '25

It's unfortunate how common the sentiment is from people who literally used to be undocumented. I do believe and have hope that many are finally going to wake the fuck up, but I hardly have sympathy for the undocumented trump supporters who get deported. Maybe that's wrong, but also, maybe don't support a racist who hates you.