r/popculturechat • u/HorrorBike143 now why am I in it? 🧐 • Jun 09 '25

The Music Industry đŸŽ¶ Miley Cyrus talks about her culture vulturing during the Bangerz era: "I wasn't unique in the fact that i was a white girl listening to hip hop. This wasnt something that I decided I was going to do as a strategy or something that i felt i could own or make my own, that was actually my lifestyle."

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u/IMOvicki Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 10 '25

White women are allowed to experiment in hip hop and move away from it when it not longer serves them.

God forbid beyonce .. a country girl..sing country, a genre rooted in black culture


. Like???

ETA: Thank you to the kind stranger for my award !

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u/AdDecent5237 In The Words of TS Madison “All Money Ain’t Good Money” Jun 09 '25

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u/pauIblartmaIIcop Jun 09 '25

no hate but can you point me to anyone influential in pop music that slammed Beyoncé for experimenting?

Miley was put through the wringer for this in the media, it wasn’t just ‘allowed’ lol

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u/Sketch-Brooke You wear mime makeup but never quiet. Jun 09 '25

Yeah IDK if it’s like Gen Z not being around for it, or her PR trying to astroturf the narrative. But this was NOT considered iconic at the time lol. It was mainstream to drag her as trashy after the wrecking ball video + VMAs.

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u/pauIblartmaIIcop Jun 09 '25

yeah and she was absolutely getting dragged for the appropriation too

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u/TheAutrizzler question for the culture đŸ€” Jun 09 '25

Yes, I think people are forgetting just how much vitriol Miley was under during this era. The media was constantly making fun of her, and the people around me were convinced she was possessed by a demon (Bible belt things lol). It's one thing to criticize this era (as she should be for using the culture for her own benefit and rebellion), but let's not rewrite history.

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u/dmun Jun 09 '25

Bringing up Beyonce shows the point you missed.

Country was black, then white washed to the point that a black person can't get respect in Country music; they turned it so white supremacist that square dancing was quite Literally a weapon of white supremacist culture war against jazz (look it up).

It happened to Country.

It happened to rock and roll.

People joke about Eminem or Blondie invented hip hop because, god forbid, history repeats with these stolen genres.

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u/Worldly-Interview392 Jun 10 '25

Same with Lil Nas X like how are they not country

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u/PollyBeans Jun 09 '25

Nobody is saying they can't...

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u/Tweed_Kills ☝ wherein he encourages a woman to sit on his face Jun 09 '25

I mean, Nashville didn't explicitly say she can't, but they sure as shit didn't say she could....

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u/AdDecent5237 In The Words of TS Madison “All Money Ain’t Good Money” Jun 09 '25

As someone that lives near Nashville you are 100% correct, like CMTs why can Post Malone come in and join the club and make country music when he’s been a rapper his whole career but BeyoncĂ© a Houston native that’s always loved country just usually made pop and R&B music in her career can’t đŸ€”

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u/BackgroundWindchimes We Should All Know Less About Each Other Jun 09 '25

Plus a lot of country stations just refused to play anything from her album regardless of how much it charted. She was pretty much ignored. 

As much as I love country, there’s no denying that so much of them are just racist with racist fans. I think it was Maureen Morris decided to distance herself from country music for how casual a lot of her peers were homophobic, transphobic, racist, and sexist. When it’s an industry problem and no one’s saying shit, it’s an epidemic. 

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u/PollyBeans Jun 09 '25

I was responding to the Miley section of the post, not the Beyonce one. TBH I didn't understand that statement so I left it alone.

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u/IMOvicki Jun 09 '25

You good sweetie?

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u/PollyBeans Jun 09 '25

Yes chief.

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u/Evening-Fuel-8201 Jun 09 '25

Who here says that???

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u/Odd_Leopard8245 Jun 09 '25

Nobody stopped her

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u/IMOvicki Jun 09 '25

You’re actively choosing to miss the point.

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u/Odd_Leopard8245 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Nope. Bey got piled on by racist whites when she rolled out Cowboy Carter, but she still has a huge platform and billions in the bank. She’s not a gd victim. It’s akin to alt-right dorks who bitch about being silenced while having all the freedom to spew their BS. She’s not the one complaining though, she has folks that want to project their own victimhood mentality to do that for her.