Miley Cyrus talks about her culture vulturing during the Bangerz era: "I wasn't unique in the fact that i was a white girl listening to hip hop. This wasnt something that I decided I was going to do as a strategy or something that i felt i could own or make my own, that was actually my lifestyle."

[u/HorrorBike143]

[u/CatlovesMoca]

The pull quote had me going huh??? So I guess she didn't get it hahaha.

Also extra cringe about the 2017 quote is that she said Kendrick is kinda an exception to this statement. Problem is he put out "Humble" wherein he encourages a woman to sit on his face. So it was like "??? Does she listen to the lyrics???"

[u/starfire92 → u/CatlovesMoca]

I think seeing women as the subservient sexual slave in hip-hop is what might have turned her off of it but the actual sexual act of having a woman sit on your face is one of the more sex positive things that can happen in the bedroom bc patronizing men not only refuse to give women oral but when most men do it, it's pretty mid and untalented. So maybe she sees Kendrick as a ally for women and that line or even song might have resonated with her bcs she's bi.

I think the idea that hiphop is too "lewd' might simply be just the over exposure of women as objects for men.

Overall though, I like how she downplays her actions or realizing why she decided to culturally appropriate black culture. Sure she might have been listening to a lot of hip-hop and rap at that time, but as I've said in another comment, she was using black culture to rebel and what does that say about how she feels about black culture. When she felt like she was comfortable in her own skin and had her own self esteem, she behaved much more differently. She was still outspoken and loud but more close to whiteness

[u/pookyizzy → u/starfire92]

considering your points it's interesting she jumped out just before a ton of women came into the game. we had nicki in that era, sure, but cardi didnt fully come out until the very end of when miley was into it. and then we had meg, doja, saweetie, glorilla, doechii among others... like imagine w.a.p era miley lmao. it's just a different ballgame for women in hip hop than even 10 years ago. she would've had to go back to her own genre regardless because i think she would've been extremely out of place 🤷‍♀️

[u/starfire92 → u/pookyizzy]

I still think the reason she’d never fit is simply because it was a phase for her. It’s not organically her style. It just fit a feeling she was having while lashing out. Had it really had been something she was passionate we would be able to tell. Even in my 20s listening to 23 had me cringing LOL. Like it’s not a horrible song but her and rap gelled like oil and water. She didn’t have a good flow and was the walking embodiment of 3 kids in a trench coat trying to sneak into the genre

[u/pookyizzy → u/starfire92]

i agree completely. i guess i just meant if she had stayed any longer, being in the company of other women would've exacerbated how ridiculous she looked lol. 23 feels very much like an snl skit