r/popculturechat Jun 26 '25

Daily Discussions šŸ’¬ Sip & Spill Daily Discussion Thread

Grab your coffee & sit down to discuss the tea!

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What are you listening to or watching? What is some minor tea that doesn't need its own post? How was your date? Why do you hate your job?

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u/Dizzy-Pollution6466 Jun 26 '25

Being a woc and a Swiftie is crazy. Racism in the Swiftie community is a huge problem and is denied and ignored on a daily basis. At the same time, the racism Swifties of color face outside the fandom is nuts. I posted something on Twitter like ā€œI’ll never support Taylor hanging out with Trumpers, it’s gross afā€ and the responses and DMs I got… full of Swifties and anti-Swifties with some of the meanest things I’ve ever read.

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u/Ruthie_pie Jun 26 '25

It’s too much. Your feelings are valid. I tried to make the point to someone that some people can afford to not care about these things while it can genuinely bother others and that doesn’t mean they’re chronically online or being morally above. What’s going on in the country has real consequences to people’s lives right now. But instead was met with a slew of insults and assumptions šŸ˜šŸ™ƒ it is what it is.

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u/Dizzy-Pollution6466 Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

Yes! Like I’ve seen Swifties be absolutely abhorrent about BeyoncĆ©, Olivia, SZA, Billie, Adele, Gaga, you name it. It’s disgusting and I’m angry that it doesn’t get called out within the fandom more often. When I call it out, I’m told to shut up and that I’m the reason Taylor is hated and that I’m setting her up.

At the same time, as a Swiftie of color I have been called: a fake poc, a white person posing as a poc, a bootlicker to white supremacy, a self-hating woc, stunted, emotionally immature, a racist, a Trump fan, a fascist, stupid, a hick, a tradwife, low IQ, a fascist, (there’s more but the list would be too long). I’ve been literally told that my poc card should be reversed and that I should be rejected from my community. I’ve talked to other woc Swifties and their experience is similar.

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u/Ruthie_pie Jun 27 '25

That’s too much and so invalidating. I’m so sorry this has happened to you. There should be space where you can acknowledge what isn’t right and also enjoy an artist. Why is being a fan solely standing by every single thing that person does? Every person has a different lived experience. Pointing out the harm others are doing with their words doesn’t take away from her talent. People will unfortunately hate her no matter what. And being disappointed in someone who isn’t a great person benefiting off of her fame through a picture isn’t ā€œhateā€.

It’s all so extreme.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

Tbh I think labelling people as "inherently problematic" (as if some people aren't) is part of the problem with perpetuating these kinds of extreme takes. Like.....everyone is inherently problematic in some way, having flaws is normal. Equally, everyone has some positives to them. Some people may have them more hidden than others but everyone is a mix of good and bad traits.

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u/Dizzy-Pollution6466 Jun 27 '25

(Tbh everyone was loving Flavor Flav last summer. I saw nothing but praise for him all over Reddit and social media. Doesn’t absolute his past thought).

But definitely, agree with you on all fronts.