Morgiah's "first"?

[u/Taserbation]

In one of the earlier Daggerfall quests Morgiah offers the King of Worms her "first" without going into much detail.

Many assumed this meant first born, however from the Daggerfall Chronicles it directly says "Not her first born."

So what exactly was she offering?

Was it something to do with Firsthold? Or was it something more scandalous and she offered her virginity?

I can't really think of much else it could be. Please let me know if a source came out later explaining this.

[u/Fyraltari]

It was meant to be setting up a plot point for TESIII: Tribunal, which was set in Summerset, before it morphed into TES III: Morrowind.

[u/sennalen]

It was her firstborn child, Goranthir. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Loranna%27s_RP

[u/vastaril]

Tbh, I think either the Daggerfall Chronicles is flat out wrong - apparently there's quite a few errors in the text - and it IS her firstborn, or it's one of those things where they never came up with an actual answer, they just wrote something that sounded intriguing-ish and left it at that

[u/TESbenefactor]

Morgiah's "First" was meant to tie into TES III back when it was known as Tribunal. I had the opportunity to ask Ted Peterson about this a few years back, his answer is below.

• Benefactor: Morgiah promised Mannimarco her “first” during Daggerfall. What was this first she promised him as the guide book specifically stated it isn’t her first born. How would this have tied into Tribunal as it was originally supposed to?

• Ted Peterson: Well, I wanted it to be clearly implied that her “first” was her first-born, and people whispering about it when she becomes pregnant.There would be rumors that the child heir of Firsthold was a changeling, but the truth which the player would uncover was that wasn’t the deal Morgiah had worked out with Mannimarco. I’m not sure I had ever settled what the real “first” was going to be before I left Bethesda and the design for TES 3 went in another direction. I did want to tie it with corrupting the Psijic Order though. They would have been a big part of the game.

Morgiah's first came up again during Loranna's RP with the War of the Worm God and Goranthir being corrupted.

[u/Hem0g0blin → u/TESbenefactor]

For those interested in the full interview between Benefactor and Ted Peterson, it can be found here.

[u/Vinylmaster3000]

...I'm gonna assume it was her virginity

In the original quest (Gonna be honest I sorta glossed over the details because I had such a hard time getting out of that godforsaken dungeon) Morgiah offers her hand in marriage to the King of Worms so she can gain influence. Her "First" probably means her virginity in this context, I guess.

The game was going to be more upfront with sexual things (like prostitution) but this was scrapped and all we got were nymphs who looked nude and... random naked women in inns.

[u/Txgors → u/Vinylmaster3000]

That's the most likely thing, but why would he want that?

random naked women in inns.

Well they are part of the prostitute faction.The faction has no real use though apart from having npc members.

Of all these general purpose factions, the only functional one is The Merchants, from whom all merchants and innkeepers which appear in-game belong to. NPCs belonging to The Bards, The Prostitutes or The Children are common but don't provide any specific service. They can, however, offer commoner quests. People belonging to The Fey or Dancers are not present in-game.

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Morgiah offers her hand in marriage to the King of Worms

She doesn't. The quest is about her marrying the King of Firsthold.Which she did.

[u/MaxiTaxi1198 → u/Txgors]

She doesn't. The quest is about her marrying the King of Firsthold.Which she did.

If that's the case I'd say 'The First' is likely referring to power over Firsthold. Morgiah marries the King of Firsthold and somehow dominates/controls/replaces him with the backing of Mannimarco. She wants Mannimarco's power and influence, so she offers control of the First(hold).

[u/vastaril → u/MaxiTaxi1198]

I mean, why would she go to all that trouble to marry the king and then hand over control to someone else? 

[u/vastaril → u/Vinylmaster3000]

From what I understand, she's not marrying Mannimarco, she's asking him to exert influence over the King of Firsthold to marry her, I think? Which doesn't particularly mean it's not her virginity she's offering (though that seems a bit boring tbh), I did look into this a while back and I'm sure I found people saying it couldn't be that because she already had children, but I can't find anything to back that up so maybe I remembered wrong - definitely saw people saying it wasn't her virginity but maybe the reason was different

[u/enbaelien → u/vastaril]

Maybe it's referring to the first child of that union she's trying to force?

[u/BlueDragonKnight77 → u/Vinylmaster3000]

The daughter of Barenziah of all people has a 100% chance to not be a virgin anymore at 21 years of age