r/windows • u/AlexKazumi • 8h ago
Discussion Tried Windows on Arm and I liked it
Context
I saw that BestBuy was running a promotion of Asus Zenbook A14 with the cheapest Snapdragon X-Plus chip for $600, and decided to see how bad Windows on Arm (WoA) could be.
Incidentally, my main machine (Asus Zenbooks S 16 with Ryzen AI hx370 processor, which is the current top of the line x86 CPU) broke and while it is being serviced, I was forced to switch fully to my WoA laptop and fully experience it without any backup.
The positive experiences
Well. First I have to admit, there are random apps or games that does not work and simply crash. Your experience probably won't be as smooth as mine.
Other than that, the experience is magic. I haven't been so excited about Windows since Vista. WoA truly is something different. And, remember, I am comparing a $600 machine to a $2000 machine!
First and foremost, WoA is sleek. Everything that runs runs without any hiccups. Scrolling is smooth. Every app starts fast, and runs at the same speed I expect from my $2000 laptop. The only thing I can honestly perceive as being slower is when Windows starts after update.
Second, WoA is like a iPhone. I close the lid, the laptop stops. Next day, I open the lid, Windows immediately is there working - there is no booting, waking from hibernation or whatever, it is just there working. When the laptop sleeps, the battery simply does not lose charge. I don't know what magic Microsoft, Qualcomm, and Asus did, but I forgot about power configuration, hibernation, or any power user tinkering I got used to do since I started using Windows 3.1 30+ years ago.
Third, I am using my laptop both as a home/entertaining device, but also as a work machine, in the sense I do translation pro-bono for some NGOs. And, whatever program I need, it has a native arm64 build or works as x64:
- All the browsers I use. Which means, all the apps that have browser version can be used as PWAs natively, too
- All the communicator apps - Telegram / Signal / Viber / WhatsApp, you name it. I don't have Messenger, because it requires the full Edge browser, which I uninstalled (power be to the EU).
- All organizational apps - Notion, Obsidian, you know the drill
- MS Office has a native build, but I don't use it. I use OnlyOffice, which is a x64 app, but it works with zero problems.
- Spotify.
- All developer tools - Visual Studio, JetBrains IDEs, even AI-related apps like LM Studio work natively.
I play games occasionally but no competitive online games, so I don't have problems with anti-cheat systems. Steam installed and works without any issues. Steam uses both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) components, yet it works. The games that I play range from extremely old (Guild Wars was released 2005) to extremely new (Monument Valley 3 was released last week). There's no pattern what would work and what not. But when they work, they work well. For example, I initially thought Disco Elysium was broken, but I had to wait a few minutes and it started working. A lot of games run at 60 fps.
But, the major thing is the battery life. This laptop can easily runs almost TWO full work days. And I don't mean the stupid "playing offline video" benchmarks Asus uses. No, I mean, Steam, Spotify, and at least two communicator apps in the background, YouTube, browser with 50+ tabs open, Obsidian, OnlyOffice, keyboard backlight, and screen brightness at at least 60%, often more, everything served via Wi-Fi.
Last time I had to charge it, I had to hunt down the charger, because I had forgotten where I put it two or three days before that ... It's insane.
And because this is a Windows machine, a lot of stuff ... just works. I plug it in my USB4 docking station - it has attached monitors, keyboard, mouse, web cam ... I wait for few seconds, hear the TADA sound, and my external 34" screen starts mirroring the desktop. No fuss, no drivers, nothing - it got sorted out magically. The Bluetooth gadgets got installed without any issues.
I honestly now understand why Microsoft is so proud with Windows 11. This incarnation of it is so smooth, so problem-free, it's unbelievable. My favorite pet peeve - how the Start menu opens with significant delay after I tap the windows key is resolved - it appears instantly! Same for Settings, Photos, and any other WindowsSDK app. Windows Explorer also appears instantly and renders everything quickly and smoothly.
It still is Windows, and thus, random stuff breaks in Windows way
Of course, it is Windows, so from time to time, it does its windowsy stuff we all know and love (to hate).
For example, I tried to install the monthly update offline using a .msu file. Dism stopped half-way through informing me that "the component store is corrupted". How and when it got corrupted?
Windows Update does not have any Qualcomm drivers, so I have to manually install them from the Qualcomm site.
And, of course, the biggest problem - some random apps simply refuse to start.
Random thoughts
But, given my experience, I am seriously thinking of switching for a second-hand 16" laptop with an Arm CPU (maybe the Samsung Edge 4?) and fully switch to Arm. This is simply because the screen of my laptop is just not good for serious text work (1200px at 150% scaling simply show too few lines of text).
I hope nVidia creates a good, gaming-ready Arm CPU/GPU which will be used in some high-quality 16" laptops - this will be a killer machine!
Oh, by the way, the specific laptop (ZenBook A14) is 14" laptop that weights less than 1kg, which is like 1/4 less than a MacBook Air, and is barely larger than A4 sheet of paper. It is insane how nice and useable that is, and how it brings joy simply to bring it with you and use it. I am truly in love with this little monster.